Even Some Calgarians understand the issue more than you jokers.

[AdamSmith]

"Once created and brought into law, the right of the Canadian Wheat Board to determine its own destiny by democratic vote of its members cannot be revoked. That's how democracy works.

Contrary to public opinion, Parliament's power is not absolute in this respect."


Is this the next great show coming to a theatre near you?

47.1 granted the cwb special irrevokable rights.

Wow, I thought LSD was no longer in vogue?

[cpallett]

AdamSmith,

I find reading the non-lawyer opinions on the law equally fascinating. especially the press, and even some of the press who claim knowledge of the law. Sort of what it must be like for you to hear from a cattle producer the corrct rotation for your zone. Interesting.

As for Mr. Barclay's view, it is indeed precious. He is no lawyer. The view of the Chief Justice of Canada is a little different. She used to be a lawyer but has become quite a bit more than that. Must be the water in Pincher Creek:

“The government, as a general rule, must act in the interest of all citizens. It is entitled to make distinctions between different groups in the imposition of burdens or provision of benefits, subject to s. 15 of the Charter, which forbids discrimination.”

So yes, the government was free to create the CWB because while it arguably discriminates between Western and Easter grain producers, that is not one of the grounds of discrimination recognized by section 15 of the Charter (or analogous thereto).

And yes, the government does have the right to snuff out the CWB without a vote. Just wish they had followed proper procedure and respected the law in doing so.

The failure of the Harper Government to respect the rule of law makes us simple folk a bit nervous about what they may choose to do next, and how they may choose to do it.

[rhoff]

I_F. Why don't we use the results of 2006  
plebiscite? You know the one the CWB  
completely dismissed. Couldn't the government  
argue that they did in fact consult farmers in  
2006-so let's get on with it and move into the  
21st.century. And when you make a statement  
and someone challenges it why don't you defend  
your statement?

[wilagro]

AdamSmith: You are coming across as an "elitist" jerk with your condemnation of nearly all who oppose the destruction of the CWB. Can't you see what the government is doing?...they are going to leave the CWB a shell of what it is now and its usefulness to farmers will be close to nil. IMHO this is being done deliberately so as to set up the new CWB for complete failure so that it can be sold or shut down for ever. With no farmer control or input it is inevitable.

[Fransisco]

"all who oppose the destruction of the CWB"

aka; The Friends of Tyranny

[agriman]

In the final, final analysis no group of farmers, no group of anyone else, whether they vote or not, no so-called organization of retarded Wheat Board monopoly supporters, no society of doctors or dentists or service station owners, not the Council Against Canadians, noy anypne is ever going to have primacy over parliament. Parliament does not need permission from any citizen or group of citizens to make or change laws. We elect them for that purpose. The latest antic by Oberg & the Seven Dwarfs is a pathetic last gsap. They will be out of their jobs and out of a position to pursue this craziness by this time next week. The appeal of the ludicrous Campbell decision will succeed no matter what any pompous professor says, even thoiugh that decisoion does not have a milligram of legal weight. The whole thing will go down as a silly comedy in which the Wheat Board thought it was an independent sovereign country on the same level as Canada. Wonder why they didn't apply to join the UN?

[AdamSmith]

willy, pointing out outright fallacies is not elitist.

As far as setting the cwb up to fail, I see the current 8 directors doing far more to poison the waters with respect to the success of a future voluntary cwb than anything the government has done.

The crazy 8 as they've become affectionatly known have alienated so many farmers and those same farmers grow most of the grain. These directors destroyed most of the goodwill that may have existed for the cwb. The government didn't do that, they did.

[stubblejumper]

ONE MORE TIME THERE WILL NOT BE A VOTE BECAUSE RITZ CAN NOT WIN A VOTE AS THE MAJORITY OF PRODUCERS OPOSE THE DISMANTLING OF THE CWB

[Fransisco]

One more time for the cheap seats then...

<B>IF THE MAJORITY OF FARMERS WANT TO KEEP USING THE WHEAT BOARD THEY ARE FREE TO DO SO. </b>

[HFL]

The CWB's own producer surveys show that the majority of producers support the end of the monoploy. In the barley pelbicite of 2007 only 34% of respondants supported the monopoly. There already was many votes. No more voting is nessasary. Full steam ahead Mr. Ritz.