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  • Hopperbin
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 6562

    #21
    Oh **** I Invested in kids RESP's starting 8 years ago cause I wanted high yield. i cannot get out because of a provincial top up clause, otherwise I would self direct. I would lose the provincial grant money if I transfer to self directed. Its only like 1000 dollars but **** .

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    • cottonpicken
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2006
      • 6993

      #22
      China-has problems,but long term it looks bright.

      Supply and demand are important when everything
      is working properly.

      But when the number of dollars circulating the
      world changes so does the value of goods and
      services.

      Now we are seeing cost push inflation,which effects
      the supply and demand.

      It doesn't matter if its pigs or gold,the cost
      structure(inflation) effects the pig guys business
      model,it costs more to ship,more to cut them
      up,more for the concrete,more for the
      medicine/labour etc etc,the pig guy goes broke
      there are fewer hogs,eventually an equilibrium kicks
      in and BOOM hog prices sky rocket.

      If it sounds like econ 101 its not.Monetary function
      is not discussed.

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      • Hopperbin
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2007
        • 6562

        #23
        Rock if your going to consider shuffeling investments why would you be in a mutual fund? Where you do not knoow anything about your investmetn

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        • cottonpicken
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2006
          • 6993

          #24
          What mutual funds are you in?

          And what are those funds in?

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          • rockpile
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2000
            • 879

            #25
            Hopper, in my MF's I have a breakdown of every
            individual investment and a history of their
            performance. And I am given options to move out
            of the pigs and speculate on better looking choices.
            My policy though is never liquidate at a loss, break
            even at worst. I never put a dollar in Bre-ex, Nortel,
            Rim nor Enron. If it sounds to good to be true - it
            is! Your RESPs sound like what I did for my kids
            when they were born back in the 70's. There were
            no RESPs back then but there were private
            foundations who promised you the world. In the
            end, we about broke even. As a balance, we bought
            CSBs also and that's what paid the schooling. Not a
            good option right now.
            Cott, not sure who you are asking. I agree with what
            you just said but now we're getting into some
            serious macro-economics here. 35$ bus. wheat -
            never. You overlook the influence of politicians. In
            the 70's when inflation took off, commodity prices
            took off and food prices grew, the Govt brought in
            wage and price controls thanks to Beryl Plumbtree.
            And it would happen again, because more eaters
            vote than growers. And all politicians are about
            getting re-elected. This really happened, and along
            with the embargo on Russia over the Afghanistan
            invasion (oh the irony), and it really worked. Thanks
            for your comments, a day without learning
            something new and important is a day completely
            wasted.

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            • LEP
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2007
              • 2500

              #26
              Cotton we will never wheat will never be $35 per
              bushel.

              Since the 1920's grain prices have dropped 2 % a
              year in real terms. Farmers were able to offset that
              by gradually increasing the size of their farm by 2%
              or more.

              Agriculture is the same as any commodity business
              in the world. We have to compete with the lowest
              priced seller of wheat in the world.

              We may be able to differentiate our wheat from the
              Black Sea "fire sale" wheat on gluten quality or
              protein but the lowest price sets the base price
              from which everyone starts from.

              If they ever get their shit together in the baltics,
              where they can grow a decent crop and get it to
              market in a timely manner we are screwed.

              North America isn't even close to the lowest cost
              producer.

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              • cottonpicken
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2006
                • 6993

                #27
                We'll see.

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                • farmaholic
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 17482

                  #28
                  Cottonpicken; How long do you think it will take before we see 35$ wheat? If and when it does get there, I'm sure all those sucking on the Ag tit will take their share as well. Could you imagine what fert will be worth!!

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                  • AllisWD45
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 506

                    #29
                    Cotton. If you see 35$ wheat in the future will it not be
                    all relative . What would a chart for fertilizer to gold
                    etc tell us. I imagine the same thing?

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                    • cottonpicken
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 6993

                      #30
                      Excatly the same thing,we are few years away.

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