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    #11
    I am sure you can order producer cars for canola or flax BUT you must have a sale to apply them too.

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      #12
      you need a CWB # to order a producer car, if there is no CWB there will be no cars

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        #13
        ....because nobody else could ever be capable of
        issuing an 8 digit number.

        Hilarious

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          #14
          If it is not cwb grain you don't need a number from them.If you order your own through the CGC they give you the number you need.They are quite good to work with and the cars do seem to come quicker if the producers order their own as the railroads are required to allocate a portin of railcars each week to producers if they have been ordered.I have also had brokers order cars and it has gone quite well also and they perfer to order their own alot of the time.If they order their own I cannot track the car through CN's tracking system thus I cannot bypass the broker the next time as I would have the location that the car traveled to and with a bit of work could find who purchased the grain.

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            #15
            grefer you can track rail cars via cn and cp websites. Sign up as a customer. I have done this as well, not to circumvent buyers, but to know when the car reached destination. Then I would wait a day, and call them up for the unload weights and request payment. I should back up a little. I would load the car, release it to the rail line, then fax in the rail car number, weights and a 60 day invoice to the buyer. Then I would track the car, they usually have an ETA on the website.

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              #16
              interesting discussion. I guess what I am after is if a guy could utilize the terminals at the coast to unload his car. I am not an organic farmer.

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                #17
                you dont have to be organic. you are on the right thought process. find a directory of port terminals and call them up. Or, call up some flour mills in ontario,quebec and the usa. Dont get discouraged the first go around. Most companies on the first phone call will only get your contact information. This takes time but its not impossible.

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                  #18
                  Nic
                  Make sure you know your product. Take a good representative sample and make sure that is what is in the car. Grade, moist and protien.

                  Keep checking it as you are loading to make sure it maintains that quality. If the terminal or mill agrees to take your wheat of a certain quality, then you ship them something else they will not be very quick to take any more from you. Or could even reject it and you could either be stuck with a returned car or it will be sold into the feed market.

                  The first step and the most important part of quality control is a representative sample taken evenly 'through out' the whole bulk of the grain be it truck, bin or car.

                  KNOW YOUR PRODUCT.

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                    #19
                    wmoebis, very correct. Sampling important, SGS and CGC can do this. Know what you are selling is correct. I have shipped product out of spec (1% too much wild oats) and it does not go well. It can be worked through but it creates more trouble for both parties.

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                      #20
                      What about the massive cuts the conservatives are doing with the cgc?

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