For you guys south

[cottonpicken]

The owners and crew foremen i know are saying its a
gong show for labour.The labourers have no fear and
will instantly walk off a job because they know they
just have to walk across the street for a new one.

And don't even bring up the kids coming out of
school,so if those two guys are any good they might
not be back for seeding,lol.

[riders2010]

I don't think any of us will be seeding a crop right here anyhow to be honest. The one young guy sold cows out last week, didn't have enough land or cows to keep it going and could not buy feed for what he had, and could not afford more cows at these prices and feed to get to a point where a living might be made so he sold out, I doubt he will be back if things are good in the oil patch. The other guy is trying to hold on til his parents give up, not sure of why anymore either, but maybe he wouldn't come back either.

Is there a standard rate of pay or different by company because internet advertised jobs unless you work 16 hours a day how does 25 bucks get to 400 a day? Or is that with a living allowance? I know years back some guys boasted about 10,000 a month, without any special training was that bull or did they likely luck out?

Again I and the other guys here really appreciate the info!!

[riders2010]

got my question answered, time and a half after 8 hours, and living allowance.

[DogPatch]

Burbert......

The oil companies Do So care about safety. They have zero patients for idiots that won't follow rule. Rightly so as the idiots get the good ones killed or hurt.

Lots of fellows out there figure they are worth $400/day.......NOT.

[cottonpicken]

I'm probably low actually
12 hours a day times 25 an hour and 140 a day
sub pay that I don't think is taxed 7 days a week
grosses you 518 a day for a week..

I don't know how accurate 140 sub is on a drilling
rig .

[cottonpicken]

All these numbers are shooting from the hip
so....dydd

I seem to remember semi and gravel guys
charging 140 an hour a while back so and
tandem water truck driving guys getting 500 a
day.Bradys is the name of one of the giant
companies..

And one other thing make SURE you tell those
guys to tell their employers right at the start they
are from a farm. It's a well known fact that farm
boys are snapped up over others.

[Ron]

Pipelining is another option, your farm
skills with equipment are more likely to
have value (not right away, you still
have to learn the job but if you can run
a cat at all you have a leg up).
I'm not sure what entry level wages are
now but during the boom in Alberta
$20/hour would only keep guys around
long enough to learn for a month or so
then if they didn't get more money they
went to someone who would pay them more.

Much less chance of serious injury
pipelining than on a rig (driving hurts
way more people than actual work), less
substance abuse (they test for it almost
everywhere now), and its a friendlier
atmosphere (rigs are for hockey players
just out of highschool with the
associated personality. As they grow
they turn into humans but not for a
couple years).
Lots of guys making over 400/day, just
have to learn the industry then branch
out into a more specialized position
than roughneck or labourer.

Overtime applies after 10 hours a day or
44 hours a week in Alberta. Most
companies pay after 8 hours a day and 44
a week so if you work 7 12 hour days you
will get paid 44 hours regular time and
40 hours overtime. At $25/hour it works
out to 2600/week plus holiday pay (I
think its at least 6%, 10% with some
industries) would bump it up to just
under 2800/week. With pipelining its
not uncommon to get more than 12 hours a
day. Rates should be 18-25/hour
depending on position, good workers can
get paid more regardless of job title.

There is big money to be made in the
oilfield with the right attitude (safety
does count these days). And yes, its
hard to go back to the farm for longer
hours, way less safety and sometimes you
can work all year for free.

Didn't mean to be so long winded. Good
luck (and its really still that wet?)

[Ron]

And Cotton is right. Farmers and farm
kids are used to hard work and have
commonsense so let them know your
background.

[BTOfarmall]

Makar must be no workers up dare to work fer da oilies cause of all that grain you's grow in da Peace Region? Farmers got all da hired hands, payin big moneys too.... Ha to funny.. Da Peace means nothin' fer production actually, Soooo quit cryin you ain't in da news.....

My uncle pullin' Super B Tankers haulin crude in SE Sascratchmynuts. Owner Operation. Makin Moneys, dats da main ting....

You's wanna pull someting fer da oilies eh??? Gotta have nice equipment, kin't be fixin' all da time wit that equipment you's are runnin'. Also kin't be smokin' da wackie tobaccie, Sooo that means da most of you's kin't apply...

Not enough feed. Hahahaha... Get out of bed & drive around da Municipality. Miles & Miles of road allowance to be cut. Best parts its free, gist da cost of puttin it up. Oh well da mower will git it....

If you's kin't make moneys at dees prices for cattle. Den you might as well git out da business cause dey goin' for more pre BSE. Cut da Fat out da Operation... Simple

Let da Good Times Roll in da Cattle Bizzz....

[riders2010]

Thanks again guys, Ron, believe me it's impossible to explain just how wet it is here. It has froze now enough to go across fields etc. Guys just 14 days ago were still getting stuck getting bales (crappy ones at best) off the field. Water was running under the snow.

Merry Christmas!

if you have any other tips they are appreciated!