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Myth of a dual-market finally put to rest.

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  • cchurch
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 205

    #11
    The following conditions would have to be placed on Air Canada to make it even remotely similar to the CWB in a dual-market:

    1.) They must lease aircraft from their competitors

    2.) The planes can take-off, but there is no guarantee that they will be able to land.

    3.)The Air Traffic Control has the option of ignoring all their requests.

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    • cchurch
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2008
      • 205

      #12
      Also,

      Agrium has excess income from robbing farmers on fert. prices

      Its probably a tax shelter.

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      • cchurch
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2008
        • 205

        #13
        Also,

        Air Canada at one point went bankrupt after all of this open market competition.

        and didn't all of this competition lower ticket prices....

        uh oh.....

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        • Fransisco
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2007
          • 3859

          #14
          1.) If you're talking about the overall grain handling system overcapacity is an established fact. In 1995-96, we had 19 primary elevator firms; today we have something like 35. Because of this they wouldn't have the luxury of being able to ignore CWB business. Out of simple necessity they would have to compete for wheat board business. You need to start thinking about the board as a value-chain deal-maker, which is really what it is not as a grain company which it is not.

          2.) If the wheat board was stupid enough to put grain on a ship that had no destination it deserves to go bankrupt.

          3.) Who the heck is the air(grain) traffic controller supposed to be?

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          • Fransisco
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2007
            • 3859

            #15
            Can you please point to the court case where Agrium was convicted of robbing farmers?

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            • Fransisco
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2007
              • 3859

              #16
              Your right Air Canada did go bankrupt at one point, restructured and now successfully 'competes'. It is the largest Canadian airline with an annual revenue of just under $10 billion.

              Oh yeah, its a real disaster! LOL!

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              • Fransisco
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2007
                • 3859

                #17
                Face the facts cchurch your argument holds about as much water as a hula hoop.

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                • cityguy
                  Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 113

                  #18
                  Is Ontario considered a dual market? OWPMB which is now part of GFO handles (according to the annual report) about 175,000 tonnes of wheat in '08 and '09, both less than 10% of the crop.

                  At the end of the day, dual or not, it's just a question of whether or not a CWB will succeed in an open market environment. Maybe it will quite well thank you very much, maybe it won't do that well like the OWB, or maybe it will just fade away like the AWB. Does it really matter? If it succeeds - good for them. If not, nice knowing ya.

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                  • Fransisco
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 3859

                    #19
                    What gets me about this argument is that I thought it was supposed to be about whats best for farmers. Which is in no way, shape or form the same thing as whats best for the CWB.

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                    • agriman
                      Member
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 77

                      #20
                      The way the Wheat Board is going they could not
                      sell condoms in a *****house.

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