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Potential Mad Cow Case found in Brazil!!!!

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  • ALLFARMER
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2002
    • 1640

    #21
    I also agree with Htrails. I was once told............

    What are you willing to give up to get what you want????

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    • grassfarmer
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2002
      • 9734

      #22
      Is it any worse for Chinese investors to have a "dominant role" in a Canadian sector like auction houses or packing plants than it is Canadians like Nilssons or Americans like Cargill?

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      • burnt
        Banned
        • Sep 2009
        • 3918

        #23
        How will the Chinese approach of dealing with human rights affect their long-term operations in any place where they take over business interests? Will they adopt western values abroad any better than they do at home?

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        • perfecho
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2005
          • 1274

          #24
          Had heard rumors way back when, that it was foreign money that got Nilsson’s out of trouble and into the position they are into today.
          Can anyone verify?

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          • perfecho
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2005
            • 1274

            #25
            As for Allfarmers original post, I have heard the "population explosion" theory for years......it has mad many “stay in the game”! Theoretically it should make a difference, however I believe until producers take control of their own destiny or there is a major shortage that speculators cannot control, we are most likely destined for similar results.
            Land values will most likely continue to rise. In our operation, that is the only investment that makes a lot of sense. Have to farm a long time to make the equal profit in land sales.
            Just my 2 cents.

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            • ALLFARMER
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2002
              • 1640

              #26
              I was told farming is just a hobby untill u sell your land.

              sadly very true

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              • grassfarmer
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2002
                • 9734

                #27
                Perfecho, I don't think Nilssons needed foreign investment - they just milk the Canadian taxpayer for it through Federal and Provincial Government. We've put them where they are with our tax dollars.

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                • Happytrails
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 832

                  #28
                  I had a hunch that opposing China having a major role in our industry would bring a reaction from certain quarters. You might say predictable.
                  Anyone who puts Red China in the same sentence as Nilssons and Cargill makes me want some fresh air. HT

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                  • grassfarmer
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 9734

                    #29
                    What's the problem HT? Do you consider "Red China" and Nilssons/Cargills as being polar opposites? Sure one is a communist entity whereas some would consider the others as bastions of "free enterprise". You only have to observe the effect of the two systems to realise they are nearly identical. Communism and extreme capitalism as practised by some in AB are very, very similar in outcome.
                    Just look at your Alberta Government that other bastion of right wing free enterprise. Bill 36 is a communist style land grab the Chinese would be proud of - how can that be in right wing, free enterprise Alberta?

                    Parsley posted what I thought was a very profound comment on the commodity board.
                    "What farmers need to make note of, is that Conservatives do not always govern or legislate conservatively. In the case of Alberta property rights, the Conservative government is Communist."

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                    • littledoggie
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 839

                      #30
                      Right wing, free enterprise Alberta? The policies/actions of Stelmach's government would make a liberal blush!

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