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    #11
    Parsley I moved rotated all this grain in June. Now I have another 4000 bushels of rotated stuff heat damaged. This is Cargils canola and of course the policy is to let you out of the contract if it is heated no penalty. I would also take a 30,000 dollar hit to tell them it is all heated so I can deliver to ADM which will take my canola now. Parsley I am talking to people at Cargil that are new to their jobs and don't seem to have much sense of taking the canola in or working with the farmer, its all about policy. I think they have much more to lose than me. Mind you if they are sitting on an extra 3 months supply that they cannot handle, they also don't know yet about the crop to come off yet. But for me to take another hit on a heated bin or a couple truck loads of heat damage. I may as well sell as generic.

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      #12
      One of my favorite topics. This is a
      letter to the editor I wrote in May/June
      when the situation was terrible for
      delivery.

      *****

      More on the Request for Transparency in
      Specialty-Oil Canola Contract Pricing

      Our phones started ringing shortly after
      my quotes appeared in the May 14th issue
      questioning the health of the
      marketplace for specialty-oil canola, so
      I am writing to clarify what I meant in
      saying that ‘there needs to be more
      transparency about the value at the end
      of the line.’

      In the early days, our impression was
      that the premiums for specialty-oil
      canola were calculated to just offset
      the yield drag that growers experienced
      compared to conventional canola. The
      incremental value wasn’t being ‘backed
      off’ from the premiums that the handlers
      might have been able to capture in their
      end-use markets, it was just whatever it
      needed to be to get the seed in the
      ground.

      That was an annoyance to me in trying to
      analyze the relative opportunities from
      new vs. traditional canola marketing
      programs, but I wouldn’t say it was an
      unfair or particularly surprising
      approach for the grain companies to
      take. Now however we have had one major
      handler indicate that poorer-than-
      expected demand and pricing for Nexera
      was the reason for significant and
      problematic delays in delivery and
      payment to growers, which makes me
      question how this market is going to
      perform going forward.

      Since the contracts have never reflected
      the marginal value of specialty-oil over
      conventional canola to end users, I
      can’t compare the current situation to
      the past. But I can see that the health
      of the economies the canola industry has
      targeted are suffering (Japan and the
      U.S., for example), hurting consumptive
      demand for high-end luxury goods
      overall. I would be more inclined to
      recommend growing specialty-oil canola
      if I had the opportunity to see actual
      numbers reflecting its value in end use
      markets over the years, and then assess
      how the premiums in the contracts that
      our clients are being offered for 2010
      stack up.

      We are not discouraging clients from
      contracting Nexera with established
      canola crushers in western Canada who
      haven’t struggled to manage their
      specialty-oil pipelines. Certainly the
      product seems good enough to have
      captured a core demand base and we
      always encourage participation in supply
      chains that reflect reliable, premium
      returns and solid growth prospects. But
      based on Mr. Conn’s comments in the
      original WP article that users of the
      innovative cooking oil are coming on
      line more slowly than expected, coupled
      with everything else going on in world
      economies these days, amidst the cloudy
      pricing that has always characterized
      these programs, I think we’re right to
      proceed with caution in contracting more
      specialty-oil canola in 2010.

      Brenda Tjaden Lepp
      Co-founder and Chief Analyst
      FarmLink Marketing Solutions

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        #13
        We quit growing specialty canola. The last time we grew nexera it yielded 26.5, across the fence our bayer 5030 netted 48. That was it, no more, ever.

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          #14
          In June when they want you to roll basis from July to Nov. month. on these contracts with the amount of tons on the contract I am not sure why they want you to do that and when I asked why I would ever sign that contract they could not give me a reason other than they did wanted me to do it. So me being me I refuse to sign those with no ill effects. Perhaps they would bind you to some something you don't know.

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            #15
            The point is this:

            If you present the revised contract that is written by YOU, to protect FARMER interests, you have nothing to worry about.

            The company will either:
            1. sign it,
            2.refuse it,
            3. or re-negotiate a few conditions, and initial them.

            Farmers don't have to be VICTIMS unless we choose to be. Be proactive.

            You have sat back, let the companies chart their conditions, and then moan when the conditions bite you.

            I really don't understand the inertia and the lack of will to improve your contracting requirements.

            Pars

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              #16
              parsley, you're absolutely right but in
              this case the farmer would have been
              fine with contract specs, it was the
              grain company who was totally outside
              their contractual obligations. they even
              admitted it in a letter and suggested
              growers use the cash advance program to
              deal with any issues caused by them not
              taking delivery or making payment for
              months after the contract delivery
              window. infuriatingly unfair, and no
              recourse available to growers except the
              courts.

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                #17
                Parsley when I deal with a grain company many times I have just put something extra verbally like moisture, grade, green, sprout, I am as honest as they come and my samples are what is in the bin and on delivery which I hope works in my favor. Well honest not counting my heated that is really not heated. Do I come off as a victim? I didn't think so. I will agree I sit back to much.

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                  #18
                  What about a clause in the primary contract which states:

                  delivery:

                  1. ....will occur before (ie) November 1st
                  2. .... means at the farmgate. FOB)

                  3.... penalties will come into effect five days following a default.. at the rate of 12% per month, Canadian dollars plus a straight flat default fine based upon 1% of the contract value of the grain.

                  4. ...

                  Take your pick.

                  Let the grain the company bought from you by contract become their transportation problem. Their delivery problem.

                  You have lots of choices at your means. Wringing your hands is not an effective solution. Pars

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                    #19
                    I'm the same as barleyman never again, the last time I grew it nexera was a whopping 23bu/ac invigour 5070 50bu/ac, the premium isn't anywhere near high enough.

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                      #20
                      Your right parsley. I heard a commissioner from the CGC tell us farmers that exatally same thing years ago. A contract is worthless unless there is penalties and rewards on both sides.

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