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    #16
    You'll have to explain this to me Gary I'm not
    following:
    "The best crosses for maintaining hybrid vigor yet
    control over the seedstock are phenotypically similar
    yet genetically diverse and those are hard to find
    within purebred programs."

    I assume you mean as an example that you would
    want to start with a Hereford and an Angus that are
    phenotypically similar? Surely they would
    automatically be genetically diverse by the fact they
    are two unrelated breeds? I also don't understand
    what the "control over the seed stock" you speak of
    is?

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      #17
      One of my concerns about buying off the shelf bulls is that you often find bith wt, udder, fertiltiy and feet problems in the nest generation. Many purebred operations using EPD's are only looking for single trait selection

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        #18
        Gary E what is off the shelf

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