SADIE, you gotta read this....

[grassfarmer]

Happytrails, I wasn't aware that anyone had ever claimed or intended that CCIA tags be used to establish ownership. After all a calf tagged at herd of origin and age verified carries only that information with it as things stand at the moment under the CCIA system. If a female calves goes through 2 or 3 hands before becoming someone's breeding cow she will only have her herd of origin and dob recorded in the database - this system was never about ownership.

Was there not a case in Calgary a few years back that proved that brands did not prove ownership of cattle? I think it was to do with the Bonnett situation at Ponoka with the bank, feeder co-op, cattle owner, custom feeder disputing ownership. I can't remember the specifics but I remember the outline of the case and the news item that brands no longer proved ownership.

[perfecho]

It was the Bonnet situation....personally know someone who was out a mere million $'s, even though his brand was on the cattle.

[timm]

Cash price Sun Prairie Grain Minot 13.5 pro
7.70...about same as FPC .Flexpro .50 better!!!!

[LWeber]

Billings, MT Area - in USD
13 pct
7.13-7.28

14 pct
8.78-8.93

15 pct
9.98-10.13

Use this one Tim - it is closer to you than Montana is.

http://newcentag.com/index.cfm?show=11&mid=6

[Happytrails]

I think that the banks are the only parties allowed to claim cattle with someone else' brand on them. Not perfect evidence of ownership but pretty good. HT

[TOM4CWB]

timm,

I never asked for, or gave permission... to the CWB... to put one kernel into the CWB pool accounts... let alone holds full of my families resources.

CWB; Confiscating Wheat & Barley.

There is a thief on the loose... I need help to stop that criminal!

I do not quite get it timm... are you aiding and abetting the thief... or helping us cuff them?

[timm]

We actually have more options than a US farmer
delivering to Sun Prairie Grain in Minot.....

[kato]

In the interest of stirring the pot a bit more, you may as well read Sherri's op ed on the subject.

http://thebadger.ca/2010/12/11/is-branding-necessary-do-cows-need-grass/

I think this is much bigger than a tagging vs. branding debate.

[TOM4CWB]

timm,

It is just stupid to force me to sell our wheat as milling... before we harvest it and know the quality.

The CWB knows this... you know this... and the thief in the room is an elephant who needs to get out of our grain bins and bank accounts.

The elephant is the pool accounts... the CWB is just stupid to keep stealing from PPO contracts to feed pool returns.

We need a cash price with no pool tax, 12 months a year. We need to be paid the carry in the market if we sell late in the crop year... or to be able to sell into the next crop year if we save the crop. The CWB used to do this.

timm... you must admit there is a very long way to go on the CWB ppo system!

[timm]

You can price today,well before 9 oclock ,and get
same as a farmer from Minot selling to Sunprairie
Grain so what r u wining about !!Some pricing of new
crop at these profitable levels with the click of a
mouse ,no margin calls etc.,is a must!!Some basis and
grade risk but no big deal!