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What Gerald Butts really thinks!

Feb 8, 2018 | 09:01 1 On the Financial Post website they have posted an edited version of Sen. David Tkachuk's speech delivered Wednesday night during an emergency debate on the Trans Mountain pipeline dispute. In this speech was a very interesting quote from Gerald Butts from a 2012 interview. The man who is now the prime minister's principal secretary, Gerald Butts, was asked "Why don't we propose a different route for the Northern Gateway Pipeline?" He replied, and I quote:"Truth be told, we don't think there ought to be a carbon-based energy industry by the middle of this century. That's our policy in Canada and it's our policy all over the world." He went on to say "the real alternative to the Northern Gateway route is not an alternative route. It is an alternative economy."

This certainly explains a lot! Reply With Quote
Feb 8, 2018 | 09:06 2 Wow. Exactly what kind of drugs or brainwashing does it take to start believing that bullshit. Guess that's the best fish we can get in this barrel. Sad. Another "no hope for humanity" move by our leaders. Reply With Quote
Feb 8, 2018 | 09:22 3 So, if they are so confident in their ideology, why stand in the way of the private sector wasting their capital on this antiquated hydro carbon economy. Why don't they allow the private sector to spend all they want on massive projects such as this, then if his projections of a new, non hydro carbon economy are true, the spending will only hasten the downfall of hydrocarbon based companies who will never get a return on their investment?

Personally, I think I will trust the projections of the people who are putting their own money at risk (private sector), not those putting my tax dollars at risk and none of their own. No non-government company is willing to spend billions on pipelines etc. because they didn't do their homework on future realistic energy trends. Reply With Quote
Feb 8, 2018 | 09:28 4
Quote Originally Posted by Hamloc View Post
On the Financial Post website they have posted an edited version of Sen. David Tkachuk's speech delivered Wednesday night during an emergency debate on the Trans Mountain pipeline dispute. In this speech was a very interesting quote from Gerald Butts from a 2012 interview. The man who is now the prime minister's principal secretary, Gerald Butts, was asked "Why don't we propose a different route for the Northern Gateway Pipeline?" He replied, and I quote:"Truth be told, we don't think there ought to be a carbon-based energy industry by the middle of this century. That's our policy in Canada and it's our policy all over the world." He went on to say "the real alternative to the Northern Gateway route is not an alternative route. It is an alternative economy."

This certainly explains a lot!
Harper signed a G7 agreement that Canada would stop using fossil energy by 2100.

Only 50 years later. Is Harper part of the conspiracy against oil too?

Trudeau is on record as in favour of the Transmountain expansion. Reply With Quote
Feb 8, 2018 | 09:39 5
Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
Harper signed a G7 agreement that Canada would stop using fossil energy by 2100.

Only 50 years later. Is Harper part of the conspiracy against oil too?
Making a promise almost a century into the future when constrained by a 4ish year election cycle seems like a safe bet. Doubt anyone is going to hold him to it, considering he will be 141 years old by then. His actions spoke louder than his words.

Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post

Trudeau is on record as in favour of the Transmountain expansion.
Actions (none) speak louder than words(prolific). Reply With Quote
Feb 8, 2018 | 09:56 6
Quote Originally Posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
Making a promise almost a century into the future when constrained by a 4ish year election cycle seems like a safe bet. Doubt anyone is going to hold him to it, considering he will be 141 years old by then. His actions spoke louder than his words.

Actions (none) speak louder than words(prolific).
You said exactly what I was thinking. Decisions are made, projects promoted/abandoned and laws are passed to win the next election federally and Provincialy. This is the greatest shortcoming of democracy the world over. Occasionally there are leaders that do great things but sadly I do not think Gerald Butts/George Soros puppet is one of them. Reply With Quote
Feb 8, 2018 | 09:59 7 Trudeau and Butts are purposely delaying all pipelines and LNG infrastructure by adding another round of tests for approval.
Delays are what seem to kill Energy East, Petronas LNG project and now possibly the twinning of Kinder Morgan TM.
They also put a moratorium against oil tankers in northern BC to cancel Northern Gateway.

They live in a dream world since Butts used to be the president of the World Wildlife Federation.

Trudeau wants a weaker western Canada so it works for both of them. Reply With Quote
Feb 8, 2018 | 10:02 8 The Conservatives also voted in favour of the paris climate deal which is here and now. What's your excuse for that decision? Reply With Quote
Feb 8, 2018 | 10:09 9
Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
The Conservatives also voted in favour of the paris climate deal which is here and now. What's your excuse for that decision?
See above post about shortcoming of democracy/next election votes. Reply With Quote
Feb 8, 2018 | 10:22 10 If you see the cement factory that was built without an approval in Quebec and raise their GHG levels significantly you will quickly acknowledge that it’s all politics....and not about the environment. Reply With Quote
Feb 8, 2018 | 10:32 11
Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
The Conservatives also voted in favour of the paris climate deal which is here and now. What's your excuse for that decision?
Perhaps because cowardly signing on then ignoring with no intention of fulfilling it's impossible and unenforceable mandates, like virtually every other nation did also, was not only the politically popular thing to do, it was also economically the least damaging thing to do. As redleaf reaffirmed, the election cycle makes these long term commitments completely meaningless anyways. I was a fan of Harper for a long time, but cowardly acts such as that made me lose a lot of respect for him. Say what you will about Trump, but he is not a coward on issues such as this. Reply With Quote
SASKFARMER3's Avatar Feb 8, 2018 | 10:33 12 Butts is the main problem sock boy is puppet liberal party is a joke Reply With Quote
Feb 8, 2018 | 13:18 13
Quote Originally Posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
Perhaps because cowardly signing on then ignoring with no intention of fulfilling it's impossible and unenforceable mandates, like virtually every other nation did also, was not only the politically popular thing to do, it was also economically the least damaging thing to do. As redleaf reaffirmed, the election cycle makes these long term commitments completely meaningless anyways. I was a fan of Harper for a long time, but cowardly acts such as that made me lose a lot of respect for him. Say what you will about Trump, but he is not a coward on issues such as this.
Yes Trump is a dinosaur trying to revive a dying coal industry when the economics of coal don't make sense any more. Gas is cheaper and cleaner. Not to mention solar and wind. Reply With Quote
blackpowder's Avatar Feb 8, 2018 | 13:40 14 Jeebus Flying Chrysler! this is getting old! Reply With Quote
Feb 8, 2018 | 13:56 15 for some reason he is completely and totally obsessed with a foriegn countries leader ??? same as lisa
and oblivious to what is happening in ottawa?? Reply With Quote
Feb 8, 2018 | 14:51 16 Cold as hell every day and bone chilling wind and every conversation swings to global warming!

Strange Reply With Quote
Feb 8, 2018 | 15:01 17
Quote Originally Posted by seldomseen View Post
Cold as hell every day and bone chilling wind and every conversation swings to global warming!

Strange
It's called wishful thinking. Reply With Quote
helmsdale's Avatar Feb 8, 2018 | 15:03 18
Quote Originally Posted by blackpowder View Post
Jeebus Flying Chrysler! this is getting old!
The WTF global warming thread is probably pushing 100 posts... haven't even checked it. Arguing on that front is like pissing into the wind. Doesn't matter what side you're on. Reply With Quote
Feb 8, 2018 | 15:11 19 Yes it is wish full thinking! The alterative would be the end of agriculture for us in the north. Reply With Quote