Will 200000 tonnes a week west cut it.?

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Will 200000 tonnes a week west cut it.?

Dec 1, 2017 | 08:58 1 Latest reports show only 200000 tonnes getting shipped west for the week....

With 2.5mmt of vessel space and 51 percent space at port .....does no farm group think it's worth a call to see wtf is going on? Reply With Quote
Dec 1, 2017 | 09:00 2 No they ve just said it's all going good. And besides the weather has been great for golf. Reply With Quote
Dec 1, 2017 | 09:45 3 First, I will say that this is terrible performance for this time of year. So don't get me wrong.
However check your numbers. Notice the Primary/Process shipments total 487,400 for week 17. Also the total received at Pacific ports totals 445,400(in red at the very bottom).
The number reported for tonnes on rail is what is counted up on report day. It does not include the total amount shipped or received at port for the whole week. Still a dismal performance. Why can't Grain Monitor issue a press release when the job is obviously not getting done in a timely fashion?
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Dec 1, 2017 | 09:55 4 Dismal either way. .... Reply With Quote
Dec 7, 2017 | 08:57 5 Well after 31 days at Prince Rupert the MAJULAH SINGAPURA is on her way to the Philippines with a cargo of wheat. It is estimated it will sail across the Pacific in 21 days arriving in Iligan City on Dec 27

Either wheat is in short supply in Canada or Prince Rupert is so pleasant that no one wants to leave.
Don't know what other reason there would be for taking so long to get a ship on its way Reply With Quote
Dec 7, 2017 | 09:04 6
Quote Originally Posted by bucket View Post
Dismal either way. ....
its a joke . and same time stats can is blowing smoke about how big the cdn crop is . all is well according to some on here Reply With Quote
Dec 7, 2017 | 09:06 7 It's called backing up the system so no one has to bid on grain....

You have elevators looking for grain to fill their book into Feb-Mar time frame but boats waiting on west coast? ?????


It's only 5 trains to fill a boat from facilities that clean on the prairies. ....straight into a boat since it's already graded when the train is loaded.... Reply With Quote
SASKFARMER3's Avatar Dec 7, 2017 | 09:13 8 Look at what is happening in Russia and Ukraine etc with help from China and the Russian Gov. Look at South America and again tell me how the Ponzi scheme we have in Canada is working.

Were getting handed our lunch and most cant see it. Reply With Quote
Dec 14, 2017 | 09:21 9 Is anyone following the numbers? Reply With Quote
Dec 14, 2017 | 10:58 10 Wk 19 Dec 4-11:Ship count dropping, now 29. Still one or two ships in port longer than 15 days. 17 ships cleared port at west coast in wk 19
Wk 18 Dec 3-10: Good railcar numbers into Vancouver(5300), bad railcar numbers into Pr Rupert(747)

http://quorumcorp.net/Downloads/Week...Week201718.pdf Reply With Quote
Dec 14, 2017 | 11:49 11 5300 cars x 95 tonnes equals 503000 tonnes.....there is 1.8mmt in boats....that's 4 weeks of rail shipping if the railways actually hit half million tonnes a week....and that also is assuming quorums numbers are correct....and that's ?????.....


I say everyone sits on their hands and waits for another 2013 fiasco .....but I won't say I told you so....because the indicators were there months ago....ffs.... Reply With Quote
Dec 14, 2017 | 14:49 12
Quote Originally Posted by caseih View Post
its a joke . and same time stats can is blowing smoke about how big the cdn crop is . all is well according to some on here

Stats Can may be using new math where 2+2 is close to 5. 😂 Reply With Quote
Dec 14, 2017 | 15:31 13
Quote Originally Posted by bucket View Post
It's called backing up the system so no one has to bid on grain....

You have elevators looking for grain to fill their book into Feb-Mar time frame but boats waiting on west coast? ?????


It's only 5 trains to fill a boat from facilities that clean on the prairies. ....straight into a boat since it's already graded when the train is loaded....
It's not graded for export at elev. Reply With Quote
Dec 14, 2017 | 15:37 14 Politely wmoebis. ...


It fucking well should be graded if it's been cleaned onto a train....there should be no regrading after a 10 day rail trip....

That's bullshit in this day and age. ... Reply With Quote
fjlip's Avatar Dec 14, 2017 | 15:44 15 And nobody gives a shit, just send the costs/demurage/dockage to the DUMB farmers, they have to pay or go broke. Biting the hand that feeds the economy....
Wonder what Putin would do???? just make the problem people disappear... Reply With Quote
Dec 14, 2017 | 16:15 16
Quote Originally Posted by bucket View Post
Politely wmoebis. ...


It fucking well should be graded if it's been cleaned onto a train....there should be no regrading after a 10 day rail trip....

That's bullshit in this day and age. ...
Yes I agree Ritz did away with on site grading turned it over to 3rd party.

Unless you have been on site and understand how it works it looks pretty easy but it's not. Politics within each company comes into play. Reply With Quote
Dec 14, 2017 | 17:07 17 Politics no doubt. Still working out how 300,600 tonnes of #4 and 5 durum was received at export terminals last year and not one kernel of #4 or 5 was exported. It would be interesting to see what the specs were for the tonnes shipped as "Other" and the price received Reply With Quote
Dec 14, 2017 | 18:35 18
Quote Originally Posted by fjlip View Post
And nobody gives a shit, just send the costs/demurage/dockage to the DUMB farmers, they have to pay or go broke. Biting the hand that feeds the economy....
Wonder what Putin would do???? just make the problem people disappear...
according to Ritz farmers will never have to pay for demurage again. Reply With Quote
Dec 14, 2017 | 19:05 19 Likely the merchants got stuck with a few demurrage bills but I think they're fast learners Reply With Quote
farmaholic's Avatar Dec 14, 2017 | 20:51 20
Quote Originally Posted by farming101 View Post
Politics no doubt. Still working out how 300,600 tonnes of #4 and 5 durum was received at export terminals last year and not one kernel of #4 or 5 was exported. It would be interesting to see what the specs were for the tonnes shipped as "Other" and the price received
Ah-hem.....sodomy without lube. I hung on to my "poor" durum and grossed $6.75 early winter. Let's be realistic though....I'm assuming it was trickled into the new crop that graded nearly 100% #1 & 2. But I'm satisfied with what I got....excellent experience....easier to sell something( that they actually want) to someone, than to try and force it down their throats.
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Dec 15, 2017 | 08:44 21 Oh oh ...politicians on holidays ....now comes the news how bad the railways are actually doing....and can't do sfa until February. ...which tells me we are back into 2013 mode.....wonderful Reply With Quote
farmaholic's Avatar Dec 15, 2017 | 09:04 22
Quote Originally Posted by bucket View Post
Oh oh ...politicians on holidays ....now comes the news how bad the railways are actually doing....and can't do sfa until February. ...which tells me we are back into 2013 mode.....wonderful
......does the world stop turning when Parliament isn't in session? Reply With Quote
Dec 15, 2017 | 09:08 23 It doesn't even turn when they are there.....seen any progress on the Indian pulse duty?


Railways haven't hit good numbers for months.....everyone is asleep....20 questions per day about the finance minister .....one question a month about agriculture. ...

See the problem?


Macauley has only stood twice to answer about ag....in a month and a half.....

53 billion in exports and that's the respect we get in Parliament. ...
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Dec 15, 2017 | 09:45 24 good thing peas are worth nothing.
not many to ship.

maybe it would be ok if trump cancelled NAFTA.
then we could nationalize them, or at least the rail beds.

might be affordable then , not having to pay for the lost potential profits.
but only a fair value on the rail beds.

i do not see any other solution, as long as NAFTA is on the books ,
the railways are more powerful than Govt.s

old Mulroney, with NAFTA , saved his votes in Quebec, by protecting dairy.
at the same time , selling us into slavery with the railroads.
and the liberals selling CN . all stupid.

such good planning , by liberal and conservatives and the wheat growers asc.

i wonder what lame ass solution, they will come up with this time.
for the tenth time.

what , more uncollected fines
scary

fuller rates than they already have,
that worked so well before.

only problem , with a monopoly, they do not care. there is no incentive ,
they are gonna get the business anyway.

higher rates just means more dividends, or pick up another rail line in the states, they still will not have to spend a nickle
getting the grain to the coast
Last edited by sawfly1; Dec 15, 2017 at 10:02.
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