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SASKFARMER3's Avatar Nov 7, 2017 | 06:04 1 The latest Nanos federal ballot tracking has the Liberals at 36.6 per cent support, followed by the Conservatives at 29.6 per cent, the NDP at 19.0 percent, the BQ at 5.9 per cent and the Greens at 6.4 per cent.

Under this survey Boy Blunder Actually increased in popularity?

Asked whether they would consider voting for each of the federal parties, 54.6 per cent of Canadians say they would consider voting Liberal while 43.8 per cent would consider voting Conservative. Four in ten Canadians (39.2%) would consider voting NDP while 34.2 per cent and 28.6 per cent of Canadians would consider voting for the BQ and Green parties respectively.

By elections have liberals winning liberal seats and Cons the same.

Nanos tracking has Trudeau as the preferred choice as PM at 43.8 per cent of Canadians followed by Scheer (21.0%), Singh (8.5%) and May (5.4%). Nineteen per cent of Canadians were unsure who they preferred.

This one is the surprise it seems Scheer isn't working with the public. Singh isn't either.

But this is where vote splitting of NDP to Liberal could come from. And the PQ is gaining in quebec.

Ah politics where you can be infront of the camera and not answer any questions and keep your Cabinet intact even if they have off shore tax havens and are cheats.

Yet Go after business people farmers and DRs. Is ok.

This country is becoming Greece so fast its not even funny. Reply With Quote
ajl
Nov 7, 2017 | 06:39 2 Actually Venezuela is the model for Canuckistanian downfall. The difference is that Greece can't print its own currency which is the only reason Greece is better off than Venezuela. The Euro still has some value to it yet. Back on topic, easterners are not that stupid since they are receiving hand outs. Westerners are paying for handouts. Actually these handout are increasingly coming from public debt these days. Used to be energy revenue that mostly funded them.
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SASKFARMER3's Avatar Nov 7, 2017 | 06:56 3 Good point greece is still in Euro and that helps.

We align with no one so down down we will go.

I ll say it again after this one is done with Canada he and his crew will be living in the Cayman Islands laughing and Laughing how they helped canada.

Flush. Reply With Quote
Nov 7, 2017 | 07:03 4 SKS


"Asked whether they would consider voting for each of the federal parties, 54.6 per cent of Canadians say they would consider voting Liberal while 43.8 per cent would consider voting Conservative. Four in ten Canadians (39.2%) would consider voting NDP while 34.2 per cent and 28.6 per cent of Canadians would consider voting for the BQ and Green parties respectively."


This doesn't make any sense, the numbers well exceed 100%.


As for your headline Eastern's are stupid, where in your rant have you provided any numbers indicating the break down of provincial voter's support for each party? I guess you made your analysis based on what you read on Agriville?

As for your boy wonder Scheer's (Harper 2.0 with a smile) support, what did you expect. The CPC couldn't come up with anything better than this dud, so this is the results you get. Trudeau is under the hot sit right now and Scheer can't even gain any ground!

Maybe it's not to late for the CPC to get another leader with half a brain, or change their name again! Reply With Quote
SASKFARMER3's Avatar Nov 7, 2017 | 07:14 5 Good points Forrage as a Con I am worried see we can challenge and talk about what we did wrong in public and private.

Liberals just keep singing from the same song sheet all is good all is great lets take our Cash and move to the Caribbean.

Jt is under hot water and soon people honey moon with boy blunder will come to a end.

Watched the Hated CBC last night and they were finally asking questions.

Oh well till then Nanos Must know something right as a poll company. Reply With Quote
SASKFARMER3's Avatar Nov 7, 2017 | 07:21 6 Point being Sask Alberta and Manitoba plus some of the North ontario will be blue and even the NWT because thanks to nothing on Oil Jt is not going to get those and the NDP won't either as Sing isn't going to get them excited. Reply With Quote
Nov 7, 2017 | 07:36 7
Quote Originally Posted by ajl View Post
Actually Venezuela is the model for Canuckistanian downfall. The difference is that Greece can't print its own currency which is the only reason Greece is better off than Venezuela. The Euro still has some value to it yet. Back on topic, easterners are not that stupid since they are receiving hand outs. Westerners are paying for handouts. Actually these handout are increasingly coming from public debt these days. Used to be energy revenue that mostly funded them.
How can Canada be like Greece or Venezuela if its Credit Rating is still AAA? LOL There are concerns about private and public debt and the overvaluing of houses due to all the borrowing going on, but to suggest Canada is Greece or Venezuela, that is just laughable.

You guys need to stop exaggerating because you hate the Liberals. It makes you look nutty and obsessed with a one track mind. And I have never voted Liberal in my life.

And westerners receive handouts as well. Remember the report on Business subsidies from the Fraser Institute? Saskatchewan gets more per capita than Quebec and Alberta is not far behind Quebec in business subsidies per capita.

Oh and did you get your matching deposit of 1% of Allowable Net Sales from the Federal Government for Agri Invest? Just a reminder, it's a hand out to farmers.
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ajl
Nov 7, 2017 | 07:47 8 Lots of similarities between Canuckistan and Venezuela. Real economy is a one trick pony with energy sales to the US being it. That is why the outcome of the NAFTA negotiations is not relevant. Only one type of net export. Aware that we have a car swap program with the US as well. The rest of the economy is real estate speculation due to constant currency depreciation and outright bureaucratic bloat. Try to name other Canadian exports. Yes I am aware of BC bud. Reply With Quote
Nov 7, 2017 | 07:53 9 Well chucky canadian debt per capita is worse than the usa and on top of that we have a govt shutting down our biggest generator of wealth (oil industry) while setting record deficit spending. What a crooked govt and yet morons like you live in a world of sunshine and lollipops and have no idea what this country will look like in 25 or 30 years from now. Reply With Quote
Nov 7, 2017 | 08:06 10 Do eastern farmers not get agri-invest?


It was cut from 3 percent to one percent.....like that will save a farm..... Reply With Quote
Nov 7, 2017 | 08:11 11
Quote Originally Posted by sofa.king View Post
Well chucky canadian debt per capita is worse than the usa and on top of that we have a govt shutting down our biggest generator of wealth (oil industry) while setting record deficit spending. What a crooked govt and yet morons like you live in a world of sunshine and lollipops and have no idea what this country will look like in 25 or 30 years from now.
Shutting down the oil industry? Oil is still being produced. The price is rising.

How does Germany have one of the strongest economies in the world that has a lot less natural resources than Canada, and imports most of its oil and still is the economic engine of Europe?

In Canada manufacturing is larger part of the GDP than mining, quarrying and oil and gas combined. Goods producing industries are a significantly bigger portion of the GDP than the service industries.

You are misinformed, exaggerating and you have no idea what this country looks like in the present, let alone 30 years in the future! Reply With Quote
Nov 7, 2017 | 08:14 12 1 percent will save a farm after 100 years without a disaster and not taking inflation into account it is an awesome program. Oops my bad it's only 50 years cause we match that amount. Reply With Quote
Nov 7, 2017 | 08:18 13
Quote Originally Posted by bucket View Post
Do eastern farmers not get agri-invest?


It was cut from 3 percent to one percent.....like that will save a farm.....
Yes Eastern farmers and western farmers get handout just so they don't feel left out. The biggest farms who likely need it less, get the biggest share of this popular handout. Reply With Quote
Nov 7, 2017 | 08:21 14
Quote Originally Posted by sofa.king View Post
1 percent will save a farm after 100 years without a disaster and not taking inflation into account it is an awesome program. Oops my bad it's only 50 years cause we match that amount.
Yep it is a stupid government subsidized savings program that benefits well off farms who don't need it more than the small and starting farms who do need it. Reply With Quote
Nov 7, 2017 | 08:21 15 Germany is a huge manufacturing country and have an efficient transportation system for their products. Speaking of Germany their green energy industry is on the verge of collapse if they don't continue to receive huge subsidies. As for our oil industry the prices are going up at the pumps it's not going up for the producers who are pumping the oil. Reply With Quote
Klause's Avatar Nov 7, 2017 | 08:21 16
Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
Shutting down the oil industry? Oil is still being produced. The price is rising.

How does Germany have one of the strongest economies in the world that has a lot less natural resources than Canada, and imports most of its oil and still is the economic engine of Europe?

In Canada manufacturing is larger part of the GDP than mining, quarrying and oil and gas combined. Goods producing industries are a significantly bigger portion of the GDP than the service industries.

You are misinformed, exaggerating and you have no idea what this country looks like in the present, let alone 30 years in the future!


Services only move wealth around. They don't generate it.


How much of Canada's manufacturing is AG oil and forestry related?


Manufacturing adds value to a raw product. Raw product gives currency an underpinning.

Services can't support an economy which is why so many western states are in the predicament they are in.




As for forages comment about how those numbers don't make sense... Think about it.


A liberal may consider coming either NDP or conservative. A NDP may consider coming green. A conservative may consider voting liberal. Reply With Quote
Nov 7, 2017 | 09:50 17 SF3,,,Are Eastern Canadians That Stupid?

Who doesn't like gravy? The Central and Maritime Canadians think they know where the gravy is coming from. In their minds it's coming from the Liberals and JT( better known a sock boy)!

In reality it's coming from Western Canada, and a great part from "that dirty oil and tar" !

We're still paying through the nose because of the delay in the transfer payment scheme, but in another year or two, that will change and the payments from the west will slow and maybe even stop.

Hopefully that will happen before the n4ext federal election. Reply With Quote
Nov 7, 2017 | 10:53 18
Quote Originally Posted by danny W1M View Post
SF3,,,Are Eastern Canadians That Stupid?

Who doesn't like gravy? The Central and Maritime Canadians think they know where the gravy is coming from. In their minds it's coming from the Liberals and JT( better known a sock boy)!

In reality it's coming from Western Canada, and a great part from "that dirty oil and tar" !

We're still paying through the nose because of the delay in the transfer payment scheme, but in another year or two, that will change and the payments from the west will slow and maybe even stop.

Hopefully that will happen before the n4ext federal election.
Some of us wrote at enlightening the stupid masses...I won't hijack this thread but posted in a new thread a piece that I just sent in to a local paper.

Title is "Double Standard, Ad Nauseam" Reply With Quote
Nov 7, 2017 | 11:23 19 How many mortgage brokers were AAA when the housing bubble burst? All them? Reply With Quote
Nov 7, 2017 | 11:31 20 Nanos does polling for the CBC and CTV and seems to love Justin as much as Lisa LaFlamme.

We will see how accurate their polling is in 2019....if they surveyed a lot of unemployed takers or government workers in Toronto the polling is not surprising but if the poll included more makers and entrepreneurs we would see a different result. Reply With Quote
Nov 7, 2017 | 12:02 21 I don't think east of Manitoba are stupid Sask F. they are seeing their economy take off, transfer payments are good and dollar is low to help exports of manufactured goods. Problem is, every time the libtards get in we, in the west, seem to get screwed. So a question to DML, what is needed to get a conservative govt. elected and keep people happy in Ontario. Does the unending thieving and lying of the liberals not bother you guys? It is really sad that all the money spent on sending all these goofballs to Ottawa cant be used to figure out how to make both sides of the country excel rather then the east working good for 8 years and then the west getting their turn. And if it cant be done, maybe the best option is to split at the Man./ Ont. border and allow for 2 different currencies Reply With Quote
Nov 7, 2017 | 12:08 22 Hillary was supposed to win in a land slide the morning of the election according to polls as well.... the message gets massaged Reply With Quote
Nov 7, 2017 | 16:28 23
Quote Originally Posted by bucket View Post
Do eastern farmers not get agri-invest?


It was cut from 3 percent to one percent.....like that will save a farm.....
Most of us have learned not to bother with Angry-invest or Angry-Stability.
As to the question posed, I think you’ll find Urban Canadians are really that stupid. We just have more than our share in the east Reply With Quote
Nov 7, 2017 | 17:16 24
Quote Originally Posted by dalek View Post
Most of us have learned not to bother with Angry-invest or Angry-Stability.
As to the question posed, I think you’ll find Urban Canadians are really that stupid. We just have more than our share in the east
AgriStability is useless since harper changed it. AgriInvest is a no brainer even if it is not good policy. Why would you not want a matching deposit? Reply With Quote
Nov 8, 2017 | 07:54 25 RD414: I am not sure why you think I would have any answers as to "what is needed to get a conservative govt. elected and keep people happy in Ontario." I tore up my Conservative membership a long time ago and have not been affiliated with any other party ever. I think all parties, including the Conservatives, have been corrupted. The system is not going to change on its own. But I do believe the system can be changed by the grass routes. And it starts with exactly the question you are asking. What do the people of Canada (not just Ontario or the west) want? Unfortunately few are asking the question and an even lower percentage are listening to the answers. Until people actually start talking, answering questions, supporting their positions with verified facts rather than arguing because of something they heard or read on the internet and which they simply repeat rather than making sure it is true, and most important be willing to compromise and concede when they are wrong, we will always be divided.

IMHO, there are two more things that have to happen. First, there has to be a return to civility. No one likes to be put down, bullied, and insulted, yet social media seems to thrive on it. Read any thread on this forum and count the putdowns, and name calling. Even the title of this post insinuates that easterners are stupid. You think easterners enjoy being called stupid? Look at the number of memes of Trudeau on this forum. Such postings might be considered funny to the far right base but all it does is insult Liberals. I doubt there is a single Liberal that will change their vote because of a meme but there are many Liberals that will be angered enough by them to work even harder in the next election to stop Conservatives because of these junior high antics.

Second, it is really easy to criticize. Words are cheap, action is what counts. The Conservatives can yell all they want about the paradise papers and Liberals, yet those same loopholes were in the tax code throughout Harper's tenure and Conservatives and corporations also use them. Apple alone has a over a quarter trillion in off shore accounts yet I do not hear a call by Conservatives to throw away you Iphones and I pads. Instead of telling us what is wrong with the Liberals, tell us what a Conservative government is going to do. Give a plan instead of complaints. And then keep your word when you get in. It is easy to be against a deficiet when in opposition but when Harper got in an run up the debt more than any previous government, it makes it really hard to trust the party again. Reply With Quote
Nov 8, 2017 | 08:00 26 dmlfarmer I think that is a very true assessment, one of the only true ones on this site. Reply With Quote
Nov 8, 2017 | 08:25 27 Yes the Liberals aren't that crooked.....Bill Morneau just forgot the rules right? 🙈

All our Finance Minister did was forget to declare a French Villa, declare than his multi-millions in shares of Morneau Schepell which his policies affect!
Other than that he only forgot about a dozen or so numbered companies to avoid taxes.....it's all about the middle class.

Than there is the job killing carbon tax scheme from the big spending environment minister, immigration minister scandal, defense minister scandal, sexual harassment cases by several MP's, energy east pipeline and northern gateway pipeline cancellations........the list goes on. Reply With Quote
Nov 8, 2017 | 10:01 28 The question should be, are Western Canadians that stupid, we have been tolerating this system for more than a century, while the easterners have been voting for the party that promises to extract the most wealth from those who work to buy votes with those who don't want to. Now who is stupid in this arrangement? Reply With Quote
edl
Nov 8, 2017 | 15:43 29
Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
Yes Eastern farmers and western farmers get handout just so they don't feel left out. The biggest farms who likely need it less, get the biggest share of this popular handout.
program maxes out at 15000 a year deposit so actually the bigger farms get a way less share than the smaller farms. know ur facts. Reply With Quote