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Nov 2, 2017 | 21:58 31 I know a former very heavy user (while in high school), he would disagree that it doesn't do any permanent harm. Reply With Quote
Nov 2, 2017 | 22:02 32
Quote Originally Posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
I know a former very heavy user (while in high school), he would disagree that it doesn't do any permanent harm.
I know a guy who thinks the earth is flat. Must be true. He told me. Haha Reply With Quote
Nov 2, 2017 | 22:58 33 Alcohol has killed more people, ruined more families and fried more brains than anything besides legal drugs. The side effects of alcohol and prescription drugs are monstrous. Furthermore, prescription drugs have killed many innocent people. But did ever hear anything like that about Mary Jane?

Why people need anything at all is the question but I did enjoy that tall rum and coke tonight and the cool beer all summer. We are strange and pathetic infidels😄 Reply With Quote
Nov 3, 2017 | 08:59 34
Quote Originally Posted by sumdumguy View Post
Alcohol has killed more people, ruined more families and fried more brains than anything besides legal drugs. The side effects of alcohol and prescription drugs are monstrous. Furthermore, prescription drugs have killed many innocent people. But did ever hear anything like that about Mary Jane?

Why people need anything at all is the question but I did enjoy that tall rum and coke tonight and the cool beer all summer. We are strange and pathetic infidels😄
Sumdumguy I agree with you. We have a double standard when it comes to substance abuse. But alcohol is much more serious problem than weed. I don't encourage my kids to smoke weed or abuse alcohol. But alcohol abuse is ingrained in our culture more than weed use.

The greatest risk for most of our families, is dying because of a traffic accident. Many of which are caused by alcohol alone and combinations of other drugs, including prescription drugs. Saskatchewan has the worst record in the country.

Addictions are a mental health issue. We have tried to solve addiction problems by treating addicts as criminals, which doesn't work.

A large part of the opioid crisis has been caused by the over prescription of opioids by doctors. Patients become addicted and can't stop, so they resort to street sources which are now extremely dangerous because of fentanyl and carefentanil. This is affecting young and old, rich and poor.

Weed is potentially a trigger for mental disorders in the young brain and is best to be avoided. But it is probably less dangerous and much less addictive that alcohol. Both are now widely available to school aged children.

We should ask ourselves why there are so many people in our society that need to escape reality with alcohol and other substances? And I also enjoy a cold beer, or a glass of wine.

The best thing we can do is educate children and their parents about the risks and implications of all substances and be honest in admitting that we are all responsible in some way.

We also need more treatment beds and addiction programs to treat addicts. Reply With Quote
Nov 3, 2017 | 09:47 35 We haven't been treating them as criminals. Drug dealers get smaller fines than a daily drug deal with a kid in school.
The lawyers and judges get paid to do a clusterfk job where nothing happens little slap in the wrist but they do it so they make money continual cycle drug dealers laugh and aren't afraid of ever getting caught. Money talks slap huge fines and it would have been a whole different story.

It is a proven scientific fact weed takes away brain growth in young people. Where are you people getting that it doesn't? Reply With Quote
Nov 3, 2017 | 09:48 36 And yes alcohol is a serious problem and it's available everywhere right?? Reply With Quote
Nov 3, 2017 | 10:06 37 Not sure where you are getting facts from Big Wheel. The brain damage studies used monkeys and they cut the oxygen off to their brains using a gas mask. Most of the recent studies show the exact opposite brain protection and stimulation. Cannibinoids are also found in mothers milk giving new borns the "munchies". The abuse of any substance is never good even food and water. Alcohol is a much more damaging drug imo. Though in small quantities is ok.

I think many on here could benefit from the occassional puff. Reply With Quote
Nov 3, 2017 | 12:34 38
Quote Originally Posted by the big wheel View Post
We haven't been treating them as criminals. Drug dealers get smaller fines than a daily drug deal with a kid in school.
The lawyers and judges get paid to do a clusterfk job where nothing happens little slap in the wrist but they do it so they make money continual cycle drug dealers laugh and aren't afraid of ever getting caught. Money talks slap huge fines and it would have been a whole different story.

It is a proven scientific fact weed takes away brain growth in young people. Where are you people getting that it doesn't?
We can still criminalize dealers but there is no point in criminalizing addicts or users as it doesn't solve the problem. And in fact can make addictions worse. Where is the scientific evidence that weed stops brain delopment? It may make young users prone to mental illness or further addictions. But alcohol is probably worse in both cases And much more widely available and widely used. Reply With Quote
Nov 3, 2017 | 15:33 39
Quote Originally Posted by Casered View Post
Haha. I don’t use any drugs, that includes alcohol. It is not proven marijuana leads to other harder drugs that is a myth. What I can agree with you on is trudeau is a total joke and I don’t like him at all.
When I was a young fella in the 80s like most young country lads used to drink beer and occasional whiskey but that was it. Used to head to big smoke now and then hour and a half away had friends down there that dabbled in pot.

To the point they used in pot in preference to beer. And nearly all of them progressed to harder stuff.

We were considered country hicks and nerds for our abstinence. City girls loved us country hicks.......

Have a friends whos granddaughter was a pot user. Got offered ice at a party the rest is history.

Casered I could as you say be wrong and there no link just personal experience I guess. If they didn't dabble in pot maybe they would dabble in ice or get in with the wrong crowd.

Yeah yeah I'm old fashioned. Ive told my kids in no uncertain terms my views on drugs Reply With Quote
Nov 3, 2017 | 16:15 40 In the 60's-80's you could have a puff at a party if it was being passed around, no problem man, mild stuff compared to now. Now days you never know if the pot your kid is buying, or the puff she is taking at a party, has been spiked somewhere along the chain of different handlers. Even at the smallest of amounts of crystal or opioid can cause you to be addicted to a particular dealer, wanting "their pot" over others. Easy to move from pot to the hard stuff once you've had a taste. For the vast majority of people, all it takes is one taste of crystal and you'll be a drug addict the rest of your life.(however long that might be.) Reply With Quote
Nov 3, 2017 | 17:40 41
Quote Originally Posted by danny W1M View Post
In the 60's-80's you could have a puff at a party if it was being passed around, no problem man, mild stuff compared to now. Now days you never know if the pot your kid is buying, or the puff she is taking at a party, has been spiked somewhere along the chain of different handlers. Even at the smallest of amounts of crystal or opioid can cause you to be addicted to a particular dealer, wanting "their pot" over others. Easy to move from pot to the hard stuff once you've had a taste. For the vast majority of people, all it takes is one taste of crystal and you'll be a drug addict the rest of your life.(however long that might be.)
Dealers don’t spike marijuana with more expensive drugs. That is another myth. I’m sure some asshole has done it to someone somewhere but it’s one in a million. Reply With Quote
Nov 3, 2017 | 18:58 42
Quote Originally Posted by danny W1M View Post
In the 60's-80's you could have a puff at a party if it was being passed around, no problem man, mild stuff compared to now. Now days you never know if the pot your kid is buying, or the puff she is taking at a party, has been spiked somewhere along the chain of different handlers. Even at the smallest of amounts of crystal or opioid can cause you to be addicted to a particular dealer, wanting "their pot" over others. Easy to move from pot to the hard stuff once you've had a taste. For the vast majority of people, all it takes is one taste of crystal and you'll be a drug addict the rest of your life.(however long that might be.)
I think you just made an argument in favour of legalization and carefull regulation of the supply. Street drugs are by their nature un regulated and more risky for sure. Reply With Quote
Nov 3, 2017 | 19:09 43
Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
I think you just made an argument in favour of legalization and carefull regulation of the supply. Street drugs are by their nature un regulated and more risky for sure.
So how is legalized pot going to guarantee our kids dont take a puff of something they dont know they are smoking. Are the joints going to be stamped made in canada by your local liberal mp. This is really bad imo. Just making parenting a whole lot more difficult when our federal government is saying its all good. Just by our stuff man. Reply With Quote
Nov 3, 2017 | 19:32 44
Quote Originally Posted by grefer View Post
So how is legalized pot going to guarantee our kids dont take a puff of something they dont know they are smoking. Are the joints going to be stamped made in canada by your local liberal mp. This is really bad imo. Just making parenting a whole lot more difficult when our federal government is saying its all good. Just by our stuff man.
There are no guarantees with either system. But the aim is to put the black market out of business. If that happens then the supply will be tested and regulated vs untested and who knows what. Kids already have easy access now. So just like underage alcohol use a lot is up to parents to monitor and control their kids. After 18 it is too late anyway. Reply With Quote
Nov 3, 2017 | 21:46 45
Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
There are no guarantees with either system. But the aim is to put the black market out of business. If that happens then the supply will be tested and regulated vs untested and who knows what. Kids already have easy access now. So just like underage alcohol use a lot is up to parents to monitor and control their kids. After 18 it is too late anyway.
I'm not that bright chuck so you will have to have patience with me. If legalizing pot will kill the black market why not make all illegal drugs legal. Isnt it like anything else thats for sale. Make it better or cheaper or both. Boom. We are in business again. Reply With Quote
Nov 3, 2017 | 22:17 46 It's always a good idea to consult with others who have already gone the legalization path, like Colorado and Washington states.
It can open eyes to problems not yet brought up.

http://www.denverpost.com/2017/08/25/colorado-marijuana-traffic-fatalities/

This is clearly a case of a desperate Canadian governments looking for more tax dollars to incinerate.

And to hell with the health of the innocent general public.

Those that vote for it and pass it will have blood on their hands for years to come. Reply With Quote
Nov 4, 2017 | 04:58 47
Quote Originally Posted by RWT101 View Post
It's always a good idea to consult with others who have already gone the legalization path, like Colorado and Washington states.
It can open eyes to problems not yet brought up.

http://www.denverpost.com/2017/08/25/colorado-marijuana-traffic-fatalities/

This is clearly a case of a desperate Canadian governments looking for more tax dollars to incinerate.

And to hell with the health of the innocent general public.

Those that vote for it and pass it will have blood on their hands for years to come.

RWT101 - Scary article. It is saying that we and our families can all expect to be exposed to another hazard each time we drive down the road.

“We went from zero to 100, and we’ve been chasing it ever since,” Greenwood Village Police Chief John Jackson said of the state’s implementation of legalized marijuana. “Nobody understands it and people are dying. That’s a huge public safety problem.”

Aw what the heck would a cop know about driving hazards...

A survivor raises an excellent question: “I never understood how we’d pass a law without first understanding the impact better,” said Barbara Deckert, whose fiancée, Ron Edwards, was killed in 2015 in a collision with a driver who tested positive for marijuana use below the legal limit and charged only with careless driving. “How do we let that happen without having our ducks in a row? And people are dying.”

Not hard to understand here - legalization was pronounced by a pot-using, brain-damaged child who is more taken with the art on his socks than the public good. Reply With Quote
Nov 4, 2017 | 05:49 48
Quote Originally Posted by RWT101 View Post
It's always a good idea to consult with others who have already gone the legalization path, like Colorado and Washington states.
It can open eyes to problems not yet brought up.

http://www.denverpost.com/2017/08/25/colorado-marijuana-traffic-fatalities/

This is clearly a case of a desperate Canadian governments looking for more tax dollars to incinerate.

And to hell with the health of the innocent general public.

Those that vote for it and pass it will have blood on their hands for years to come.

It is crazy that's country that has tried very hard to eradicate cancer from smoking cigarettes/cigars, chewing tobacco over the last several decades will simply make smoking pot accessible to everyone by making it as easy as picking up at a local outlet.
Also very crazy that after trying to decrease our drunk driving fatalities rate now drivers will have to look out for more stoned drivers swerving at them.

Net outcome of having a legal pot option:
More accessible pot everywhere
More socially acceptable, less of a stigma
Lower IQ for teenagers who use it prior to brains being developed, higher rates of other brain problems such as paranoia, etc (Ex. Margaret Trudeau)
Higher rate of traffic related deaths and accidents
Higher SGI premiums
Higher tax dollars required to sell pot through security, sales, logistics, etc.
More taxes collected for government
Black market will still be cheaper option for pot Reply With Quote
Nov 4, 2017 | 06:03 49
Quote Originally Posted by Casered View Post
Alcohol kills brain cells and damages developing brains before 25. If you google it it’s a proven fact. Marijuana doesn’t cause brain damage and the studies showing its damage to developing brains is unproven.
Marijuana will lower the IQ for anyone who uses it before their brain is fully developed. You can find many tests showing this.
Ironically Justin Trudeau's mother is an example of a "flower power" child who made very bad decisions when on pot, than moved onto harder drugs and now has life long brain issues. Reply With Quote
Nov 4, 2017 | 07:35 50
Quote Originally Posted by Oliver88 View Post
It is crazy that's country that has tried very hard to eradicate cancer from smoking cigarettes/cigars, chewing tobacco over the last several decades will simply make smoking pot accessible to everyone by making it as easy as picking up at a local outlet.
Also very crazy that after trying to decrease our drunk driving fatalities rate now drivers will have to look out for more stoned drivers swerving at them.

Net outcome of having a legal pot option:
More accessible pot everywhere
More socially acceptable, less of a stigma
Lower IQ for teenagers who use it prior to brains being developed, higher rates of other brain problems such as paranoia, etc (Ex. Margaret Trudeau)
Higher rate of traffic related deaths and accidents
Higher SGI premiums
Higher tax dollars required to sell pot through security, sales, logistics, etc.
More taxes collected for government
Black market will still be cheaper option for pot
There is a lot of misinformation in your post.. Marijuana does not perminatly reduce iq in anyone that is a total lie. There is no prof marijuana causes cancer. There is a lot of studies showing it can help reduce the size of tumors. There is no info anywhere that says legalization has caused more road fatalities. Marijuana and alcohol impairment are not anywhere close to the same. Best to do a little reasearch before spouting off nonsense.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...ager-s-IQ.html This articles talks about they myth of marijuana reducing iq in teens. Reply With Quote
Nov 4, 2017 | 07:41 51
Quote Originally Posted by Oliver88 View Post
Marijuana will lower the IQ for anyone who uses it before their brain is fully developed. You can find many tests showing this.
Ironically Justin Trudeau's mother is an example of a "flower power" child who made very bad decisions when on pot, than moved onto harder drugs and now has life long brain issues.
Trudeau’s whole family is fucked in the head. Probably from inbreeding more than anything. Haha Reply With Quote
farmaholic's Avatar Nov 4, 2017 | 07:48 52 Who would intentionally damage their CPU in their computer..... or do something to it that might affect it's performance?

Make the comparison. Reply With Quote
Nov 4, 2017 | 07:57 53
Quote Originally Posted by RWT101 View Post
It's always a good idea to consult with others who have already gone the legalization path, like Colorado and Washington states.
It can open eyes to problems not yet brought up.

http://www.denverpost.com/2017/08/25/colorado-marijuana-traffic-fatalities/

This is clearly a case of a desperate Canadian governments looking for more tax dollars to incinerate.

And to hell with the health of the innocent general public.

Those that vote for it and pass it will have blood on their hands for years to come.
Here is an article showing people driving under the influence of marijuana is going down in Colorado.
http://time.com/4749802/colorado-mar...-percent-2017/

With the amount of people smoking marijuana in canada now I highly doubt legalization will change the number of people smoking before they drive. The dangers to the public from marijuana are way overblown. Sounds like refer madness from you. Reply With Quote
Nov 4, 2017 | 07:57 54
Quote Originally Posted by Casered View Post
There is a lot of misinformation in your post.. Marijuana does not perminatly reduce iq in anyone that is a total lie. There is no prof marijuana causes cancer. There is a lot of studies showing it can help reduce the size of tumors. There is no info anywhere that says legalization has caused more road fatalities. Marijuana and alcohol impairment are not anywhere close to the same. Best to do a little reasearch before spouting off nonsense.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...ager-s-IQ.html This articles talks about they myth of marijuana reducing iq in teens.
Few points for you Casered:

Yes we all know "the man" is behind all the countless studies that suggest teenagers who are potheads will have lower IQ's than non-potheads. This must be a large conspiracy man. 😂

As far as smoking it seems odd governments have taken several decades teaching youth to quit smoking but now seem to be okay with legalizing unfiltered joints.

Give your head a shake if you think it's appropriate for stoned people to get behind the wheel of a car, semi, forklift, crane, etc.....there is a reason mine sites don't allow employees to have any amount in their system. Reply With Quote
Nov 4, 2017 | 07:59 55
Quote Originally Posted by grefer View Post
So how is legalized pot going to guarantee our kids dont take a puff of something they dont know they are smoking. Are the joints going to be stamped made in canada by your local liberal mp. This is really bad imo. Just making parenting a whole lot more difficult when our federal government is saying its all good. Just by our stuff man.
WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN!!! WILL SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE POOR CHILDERN! Haha. Give it a rest. Reply With Quote
Nov 4, 2017 | 08:07 56
Quote Originally Posted by Oliver88 View Post
Few points for you Casered:

Yes we all know "the man" is behind all the countless studies that suggest teenagers who are potheads will have lower IQ's than non-potheads. This must be a large conspiracy man. 😂

As far as smoking it seems odd governments have taken several decades teaching youth to quit smoking but now seem to be okay with legalizing unfiltered joints.

Give your head a shake if you think it's appropriate for stoned people to get behind the wheel of a car, semi, forklift, crane, etc.....there is a reason mine sites don't allow employees to have any amount in their system.
That’s funny. I’m not some dumb hippy. I believe in science. If you don’t realize there has been misinformation spread about marijuana over the last 50 years you have your head buried so far in the sand it’s not funny. Tobacco smoke and marijuana smoke are not the same. I never said people should get high and drive. But comparing alcohol impairment and marijuana impairment together is not fair. They are very different drugs. There is no reported cases of lung cancer from a person who only smoked marijuana and not cigarettes. Why is that? There are millions of reported cases of lung cancer from cigarette use but not one from only marijuana use.

http://www.politifact.com/florida/st...ays-no-report/ cancer not caused by marijuana “Despite decades of marijuana being used for smoking in the United States, there have been no reported medical cases of lung cancer or emphysema attributed to marijuana."
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Nov 4, 2017 | 08:20 57
Quote Originally Posted by farmaholic View Post
Who would intentionally damage their CPU in their computer..... or do something to it that might affect it's performance?

Make the comparison.
I wonder that went I see people killing brain cells with alcohol. Marijuana dosent kill brain cells. Reply With Quote
Nov 4, 2017 | 08:22 58
Quote Originally Posted by Casered View Post
That’s funny. I’m not some dumb hippy. I believe in science. If you don’t realize there has been misinformation spread about marijuana over the last 50 years you have your head buried so far in the sand it’s not funny. Tobacco smoke and marijuana smoke are not the same. I never said people should get high and drive. But comparing alcohol impairment and marijuana impairment together is not fair. They are very different drugs. There is no reported cases of lung cancer from a person who only smoked marijuana and not cigarettes. Why is that? There are millions of reported cases of lung cancer from cigarette use but not one from only marijuana use.

http://www.politifact.com/florida/st...ays-no-report/ cancer not caused by marijuana
If you want to have an under achiever for a child you can let them be a heavy pot user before 18.
On average they have an IQ score that is 8 lower on average than a non-pothead. This is permanent brain damage.
Countless studies show this.
www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2015/02/10/new-study-shows-smoking-pot-permanently-lowers-iq/amp/

But whatever man if you're okay with that it's a free country and soon to be a legal option for your family and friends just don't get behind the wheel while stoned please. Reply With Quote
Nov 4, 2017 | 08:25 59
Quote Originally Posted by the big wheel View Post
We haven't been treating them as criminals. Drug dealers get smaller fines than a daily drug deal with a kid in school.
The lawyers and judges get paid to do a clusterfk job where nothing happens little slap in the wrist but they do it so they make money continual cycle drug dealers laugh and aren't afraid of ever getting caught. Money talks slap huge fines and it would have been a whole different story.

It is a proven scientific fact weed takes away brain growth in young people. Where are you people getting that it doesn't?
I think you might have had one too many whiskeys before you wrote that. It really dosent make any sense. Was your brain fully developed before before you got drunk the first time? Might be the reason you never learned English. Reply With Quote
Nov 4, 2017 | 08:31 60
Quote Originally Posted by Oliver88 View Post
If you want to have an under achiever for a child you can let them be a heavy pot user before 18.
On average they have an IQ score that is 8 lower on average than a non-pothead. This is permanent brain damage.
Countless studies show this.
www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2015/02/10/new-study-shows-smoking-pot-permanently-lowers-iq/amp/

But whatever man if you're okay with that it's a free country and soon to be a legal option for your family and friends just don't get behind the wheel while stoned please.
That article you posted is very old and was proven incorrect . Here’s a never one with correct info. Twins study finds no evidence that marijuana lowers IQ in teenshttp://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/...owers-iq-teens

If you think you can tell your kids what to do and they are going to listen to you, your in for a rude awakening. I plan on educating my kids about the truth on drugs and then they will make a descion weather I like it or not. Best to educated yourself before you regurgitate the misinformation you have come to believe as fact.
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