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Sep 12, 2017 | 22:28 1 finished the titanium wheat, px averaged 14.5 on the lot of it , most was 14.5-14.9. yielded fairly well . most px around here is 11 and under. one small field was 13.5 to bring average down . one co around here upped their px premium to $.50 /point . wonder how high it'll go ? Reply With Quote
SASKFARMER3's Avatar Sep 13, 2017 | 06:25 2 That wheat has caught my eye. But seem to not be able to get the yield like AC Brandon. Reply With Quote
Sep 13, 2017 | 06:32 3 Name:  #1 14.5 price and protein spread Sep 12 17.jpg
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How high? It's headed in the right direction. Good if you have high protein.

Very bad if you have low protein. Reply With Quote
farmaholic's Avatar Sep 13, 2017 | 06:49 4 I was going to expand Titanium for our own seed but chose Jatharia instead.

Titanium is rated poor for lodging and sprouting and moderately resistance for fusarium.

Jatharia is rated fair for lodging and good for sprouting and intermediate resistance for fusarium.

I think there could be a straw problem with Jatharia. As dry as it was here in the low spots on a good quarter it seemed much taller than it needed to be! 16 cm taller than the check Carberry. Titanium is 11 cm taller than the check. Of course none of it was lodged because there was basically no rain with strong winds while heading and filling.

Regarding the protein dilemma: I did everything the same as last year and grew 61 bpa with about 14 and up px. This year 13 to 13.7... as dry as it was I was expecting 15+. My theory, we seed using a drill with midrow banders. I think the wheat possibly reached the midrow band but had to keep rooting down past the midrow to find moisture, therefore stranding some of the nitrogen in the upper topsoil layer in dry soil. There was definitely enough applied at seeding for better protein levels with the yields we achieved this year. Reply With Quote
Partners's Avatar Sep 13, 2017 | 08:32 5 Caseih. What did you put for N.
We did 80 lbs ours is 11.8 pro tien. Tought it would lodge.
It stood vg..better than out test of utmost..excellent. goes through like bly when testing dry..
Going to try some Hughes next yr..shorter straw.
Titanium was 2 to 3 days earlier than our utmost.tested 1 point drier when combining. Reply With Quote
Sep 13, 2017 | 09:24 6 What is holding western Canadian growers back from using growth regulators?
Europe common practice.
- shorter straw
- higher yields
- better protein Reply With Quote
fjlip's Avatar Sep 13, 2017 | 09:31 7 No variety that is good, very good or excellent in all traits, guess GMO could but NOBODY WANTS IT. Then only one variety would fit everyone? Reply With Quote
Klause's Avatar Sep 13, 2017 | 09:35 8 We use them lots. Didn't on organic wheat.... Wow is it tall. What a waste Reply With Quote
Sep 13, 2017 | 10:02 9 We chose the shorter varieties for the last point Klause made . Growing straw is a waste of nutrient I believe as well . Reply With Quote
Sep 13, 2017 | 13:13 10
Quote Originally Posted by Partners View Post
Caseih. What did you put for N.
We did 80 lbs ours is 11.8 pro tien. Tought it would lodge.
It stood vg..better than out test of utmost..excellent. goes through like bly when testing dry..
Going to try some Hughes next yr..shorter straw.
Titanium was 2 to 3 days earlier than our utmost.tested 1 point drier when combining.
70-30-8-8 double shoot beside seed . Seem to get better mileage outts N when double shooting .coulda used more N , stood good . That new hughes variety sounds good for next year . Should of priced some for $9.15 for dec at dreyfus . Woulda been at least $10 with px . Thats $600-650 /ac for the wheat haters out there Reply With Quote
Sep 13, 2017 | 16:41 11
Quote Originally Posted by caseih View Post
70-30-8-8 double shoot beside seed . Seem to get better mileage outts N when double shooting .coulda used more N , stood good . That new hughes variety sounds good for next year . Should of priced some for $9.15 for dec at dreyfus . Woulda been at least $10 with px . Thats $600-650 /ac for the wheat haters out there
You say should of? I take it you didn't what does it look like now? Reply With Quote
Partners's Avatar Sep 13, 2017 | 17:11 12 Wht looks the same as all crops.prices are insulting to all farmers.
Copeland bly at 3.96..for malt?? Reply With Quote
Sep 13, 2017 | 17:26 13
Quote Originally Posted by Partners View Post
Wht looks the same as all crops.prices are insulting to all farmers.
Copeland bly at 3.96..for malt??
Wonder who to blame now? Grn Co's used to blame CWB. So we got rid of that now what, farmers fault for not pricing before?
What about movement used to be CWB and RR fault now what lots of cars sitting with no tenders. Reply With Quote
Sep 13, 2017 | 17:31 14
Quote Originally Posted by Partners View Post
Wht looks the same as all crops.prices are insulting to all farmers.
Copeland bly at 3.96..for malt??
Well sure. Why should they pay because you have to sell no matter what to the same group of buyers every year. They can wait you out. Look at the money that will be made off of 1 bushel of Copeland malt barley you sell for 3.96, and you took all the risk and did all the financial and labour heavy lifting.

What a fucking joke. Reply With Quote
farmaholic's Avatar Sep 13, 2017 | 18:10 15
Quote Originally Posted by sk_wheatking View Post
Well sure. Why should they pay because you have to sell no matter what to the same group of buyers every year. They can wait you out. Look at the money that will be made off of 1 bushel of Copeland malt barley you sell for 3.96, and you took all the risk and did all the financial and labour heavy lifting.

What a fucking joke.
I wonder how many Producers are thinking what sk is saying. Reply With Quote
Sep 13, 2017 | 20:54 16
Quote Originally Posted by wmoebis View Post
You say should of? I take it you didn't what does it look like now?
haven't looked much but I don't think we could get $7 right now . I'll wait them out . once it's in the bin I don't care Reply With Quote
farmaholic's Avatar Sep 13, 2017 | 21:06 17
Quote Originally Posted by Partners View Post
Wht looks the same as all crops.prices are insulting to all farmers.
Copeland bly at 3.96..for malt??

I wonder how much a tonne of "MALTED" barley is worth. Also, how many pounds a tonne of malt barley loses after being malted. Or the ratio of how many tonnes of barley it takes to make a tonne of malt(like 1.2:1 or what ever...unless allowable moisture is higher in the malt than the unmalted barley????)

Anyone know? I doubt it's one to one Reply With Quote
fjlip's Avatar Sep 13, 2017 | 21:40 18 $5.15 for my #1 HRS, 11% Protein for Sept delivery at Pioneer....nobody biting he said! Reply With Quote
fjlip's Avatar Sep 13, 2017 | 21:43 19
Quote Originally Posted by farmaholic View Post
I wonder how much a tonne of "MALTED" barley is worth. Also, how many pounds a tonne of malt barley loses after being malted. Or the ratio of how many tonnes of barley it takes to make a tonne of malt(like 1.2:1 or what ever...unless allowable moisture is higher in the malt than the unmalted barley????)

Anyone know? I doubt it's one to one
Bushel= 300 bottles, $0.015 per bottle, Taxes on those bottles must be $3-400, you get $3.96 Reply With Quote