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farmaholic's Avatar Jul 23, 2017 | 10:22 121 They look healthy. What do you think of their staging for this time of year? Reply With Quote
Jul 23, 2017 | 11:09 122 A week behind where they should be.
But with som moisture finally and next weeks heat they should giver Reply With Quote
Aug 21, 2017 | 09:18 123 Going to start to swath the canola seeded with planter today . Will get pictures of stand , swath and stubble . Curious to see what the stubble will be like at 2 lbs / ac
Will post pictures later today or tonight .
When we get to the side by sides with the drill at 4.7 lbs I will take pictures and do stubble counts as well . Reply With Quote
Aug 22, 2017 | 08:23 124 The first field , 45CS40
Interesting to see , most plants are about the same size and maturity. Very nice to swath . Reply With Quote
Aug 27, 2017 | 06:39 125 Stubble side by side with drill at 4.7 lbs


In all side by sides the canola seeded with planter started 3-4 days ahead , flowered 3-4 days ahead and still the same at swathing Reply With Quote
SASKFARMER3's Avatar Aug 27, 2017 | 06:56 126 Good posting furrow i always find your findings interesting. Keep them coming. Reply With Quote
Aug 27, 2017 | 12:57 127 Furrow, what about the pods? Thanx for the pictures.πŸ‘€ Reply With Quote
Aug 27, 2017 | 14:57 128 Will do sumdum , tomorrow morning πŸ‘ Reply With Quote
Sep 5, 2017 | 20:50 129 Combining the canola seeded with planter today. ....
So far very pleased Reply With Quote
Sep 5, 2017 | 22:07 130 It also demonstrates you have a very poor air seeder. Reply With Quote
Sep 5, 2017 | 23:12 131 Lol πŸ˜‚
So does everyone else then .
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Sep 6, 2017 | 00:04 132 We need a like button. (Is there a minimum letter count to post cause I couldn't submit this until I numbered it up
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Sep 6, 2017 | 07:42 133 It takes a real fool to look at those two crops and not see the problem. Reply With Quote
Sep 6, 2017 | 07:51 134 And you seen them first hand have you ? Lol Reply With Quote
Sep 6, 2017 | 08:48 135 Just your pictures. Craig has shown over multiple years that while the planter is neato cool, in the end there is no difference to justify it. His conclusions are based on a fair science based trial where things like a poor start from an air seeder don't skew results.

Others have posted some pictures of perfect canola crops with air seeders, but fear your wrath i am sure to push the subject.

You certainly are welcome to convince yourself of anything, but if you're going to publicly post it, expect peer review. Or as you call it, trolling. Reply With Quote
Sep 6, 2017 | 09:58 136 That's nice ....
Anyway , yup planters in the past are no different than some of the older drills .
Things change and the new big drills new an excellent job . They have come a long way as have planters . The Horsch is a much different set up than the planters used in those scientific studies.
So again , things change .
And you should come see our canola first hand seeded with the Bourgault then drive and look at others . There is very little difference but I guess you know that from pictures. I know what we see here on a daily basis . Is the planter far better ? No , but depends how you compare apples to apples . I find it interesting to see first hand and apparently so do 13,000 plus other viewers . Reply With Quote
Sep 6, 2017 | 17:36 137 1 st trial ...
pioneer 45S56 , 5.6 tkw seed

That was on 3.5 in rain from end Of May till now . Reply With Quote
Sep 24, 2017 | 09:43 138 All this talk on planters being superior to drills can be summed up in two words. Bull Shit. Go buy yourself a Salford offset disc drill 522 at 40 feet with on board air system and seed tank . Seed deep , seed shallow , seed fast, seed slow , seed dry , seed super wet , seed into 65 bus ac Dur stubble with no fall harrowing or pre working or 40 bus flax stubble in a drought year with zero bunching or burning,,,, what ever. For the difference in price for a similar planter I would have to remortgage my farm and start the learning process all over again. I'm 65 years old now and after 50 years of active farming I've learned one thing. Over a life time of farming , iron doesn't make a huge difference! Managment, timing and rain make the biggest difference to the pocket book and your frame of mind ! Reply With Quote
Sep 24, 2017 | 10:18 139 Who ever said they were superior ?
I know I never .
It's an out fit that will work for us and was just sharing info .
I am sure that Salford is a very good seeding outfit . How much for a 40 ft Salford with full independent row shut off for seed and liquid fert ? Just asking , I have no idea.
But for us a Salford will not seed corn accurately . Part of our plan is to replace to old JD corn planters as well for custom seeding . Corn seed is expensive and needs singularity to be effective.
Most seeding outs now are very good , the Hawks , Masters , new Bourgault's ,Salford whatever . Use what works on your farm .
Canola seed is only going to get more expensive, a tool like the Horsch may be a fit on some farms , may not , no different than the Salford .
Getting perfectly even germination , crop stand and maturity is one thing that was interesting at 2 lbs / ac . We seeded both into wet and dry here , into worked pea stubble and into wheat stubble that was only harrowed last fall , crop established very well in every situation.
The idea that planters are astronomical in price well , as you know , go price out a new 80 ft drill of any colour . The planter in half price . I don't know , but I would be surprised if the the Salford , with similar options would be that much cheaper but I could be wrong . Reply With Quote
Sep 24, 2017 | 10:19 140 Craig Shaw had a Salford set up for controlled traffic use. He came out and looked at mine before he bought! Reply With Quote
farmaholic's Avatar Sep 24, 2017 | 10:28 141 Furrow, there's a couple of Case planters coming up at Ritchie's
Rouleau ...I know nothing about them. Reply With Quote
Sep 24, 2017 | 10:29 142 I paid 135000 in 2010 for my Salford. Brand new direct from factory in Salford Ontario. Then my son and I assembled it in my shop in the winter before our first season of seeding. Was very wet in 2010 and 2011. I was able to pick up some custom seeding from the neighbors those years as all the hoe drills as well as my buddy's JD single disc were useless in the mud! Never have grown corn here so I'm an idiot on that topic. Lots of Salford in Ontario and areas south seeding corn with success. But then they do a lot of vettical tillage before seeding and generally thy get more consistent rain patterns than we do! Reply With Quote
Sep 24, 2017 | 10:42 143 The case planters can stay at Richies lol
They are no where near what a Horsch is.

Be interesting to see what a new Salford is just to compare .
They look like a very good outfit .

Seen corn seeded with a seedmaster with the speacial corn rollers . Did an ok job , far better than a normal airdrill but not near as even and consistent as even our old JD planters . Reply With Quote
Sep 24, 2017 | 10:52 144
Quote Originally Posted by Lowrider27 View Post
I paid 135000 in 2010 for my Salford. Brand new direct from factory in Salford Ontario. Then my son and I assembled it in my shop in the winter before our first season of seeding. Was very wet in 2010 and 2011. I was able to pick up some custom seeding from the neighbors those years as all the hoe drills as well as my buddy's JD single disc were useless in the mud! Never have grown corn here so I'm an idiot on that topic. Lots of Salford in Ontario and areas south seeding corn with success. But then they do a lot of vettical tillage before seeding and generally thy get more consistent rain patterns than we do!
I'd be interested in knowing what "lots" means. Planting corn in Ontario with a Salford or any other air seeder is an act of desperation when the planter breaks down. Even a worn out planter does a better job.
More and more here are even planting wheat through planters now and skipping the drills and air seeders entirely Reply With Quote
Sep 25, 2017 | 12:32 145 One thing that is very noticeable as well is zero wheel tracks from spring even in wet areas and the smooth field finish . Very nice and smooth for grains trucks and fall spraying that we are doing now . We are still very dry and ground in hard .
Fields with any kind of wheel tracks from seeding and or spraying this spring / summer are very rough in this area Reply With Quote