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    State Election here today

    Our state is city centric maybe 85% live in cities or large rural towns 15,000 to 30,000

    Our state used to have alot of car manufacturing and mining.

    Ag and wine not sure make up maybe 30% of states coffers.

    Had socialist left "labour" govt for 16 years. We have a odd preferential voting system.

    Last 2 elections the right leaning conservatives have actually got around 52 to 55% of single votes but 2nd preferences change that tally hope you can get you head around that.

    So with the help of second preference like people vote for greens or minor parties but put labour second preference hence they get up.

    Last time conservatives got in 20 yrs ago left the new labour govt with a surplus thats mostly to mining and royaliteis and buyoaunt ag and manufacturing and tourism.

    Labour has since whittled it all away now have huge deficiet and massive amounts spent on green energy and subsidies that go with it and mining mostly abandoned, oil gas coal uranium gold copper zinc.

    Lots of promises by loabour which have been fullfilled free transport in towns free or lower cost housing for low socieo economic people cheap education etc etc somehow they have to get money tax the shit out of everyone.

    Things like evry bit of farm machinery has to be registered fuel trailers augers etc minor stuff but revenue raising for govt. Farmers with dams have to pay a enviormental tax to catch run of in dams that have been there for 150 years yep a tax on rainwater for stock.

    Many people on easy street generational families on umemployement benifits and will never change no need. Many essential services getting sc****d like country roads country hospitals, my 86 year old mum has to travel 160 kms for specialist medical help used to be 48 kms in regional town.

    Every week seemingly a new govt department is started to give another 150 people of govt job, endless meaningless reports about nothing to employ more people. No such thing as small lean and mean govt in australia.

    Islamic schools and african schools etc going up cause it hard for them to intergrate good greif they came to australia to be aussies.

    I used to be a volunteer firefighter we have a fire truck in our small town of 25 people modern up to date but i have to pay a levy called emergency services levy, which is to pay for the volunteer fire fighters go figure?

    The conservatives have vowed to slash govt departments so they wont get any city votes.

    Does any of this sound familiar.

    Will let you know what happens.

    My tip hung parliment and greens or minor parties will back incumbent labour govt.

    Will i be angry or pissed of nah just the way it is, worldwide it seems

    #2
    What are the chances for some real change? It looks like here in AB our leftist premier will be on the unemployment line next year. I live in a swing riding so will do my part for that. Ontario may finally dump the most corrupt government in the world here soon. Unfortunately, I think it will be too little too late, and Canuckistan sinks regardless. At least a few premiers can get to together and make clown prince Hair do's life more miserable for a while and that will be worth it.

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      #3
      Conservative govt got in and under there own right no deals needed to be done.

      A sigh or relief by bussiness and farmers

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        #4
        Good deal Mallee👍

        Natural resources and manufacturing are the basis of a country’s wealth. The rest of it is just money shuffling. Scary just how many people don’t get it.

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          #5
          Good Luck Mallee, your description sounds so familiar. Now I hope you get the bus turned around but it could be tough. The labour party probably signed a lot of long-term contracts with their friends -not that the Conservatives won’t have friends. We all need what we can call a social audit where a group of arms-length auditors scrutinize and puplicize every move that government makes. Not internal government auditors and statisticians! Here biased media can get away with spewing any kind of garbage because we don’t have a check. Well good luck Mallee anyway. Let us know how you clean out the trough or swamp. 👍

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            #6
            Certainly does sound familiar. Fascinating how the left and the greens have the same policies all over. Not sure why people believe more government and less industry is the answer. Government is a parasite that can't thrive without sucking the life out of its host, you and I the taxpayer.

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              #7
              Please be aware "liberal" is our conservative party they won.
              The stuff up was SA best a new party which alot of liberal voters went to hence swing. If they were not there libs would have won in a lnadslide

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                #8
                “The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money” — Margaret Thatcher

                What she said exactly;

                Q: There are those nasty critics, of course, who suggest that you don’t really want to bring [the Labour Party] down at the moment. Life is a bit too difficult in the country, and that … leave them to sort the mess out and then come in with the attack later … say next year.

                A: I would much prefer to bring them down as soon as possible. I think they’ve made the biggest financial mess that any government’s ever made in this country for a very long time, and Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They always run out of other people’s money. It’s quite a characteristic of them. They then start to nationalise everything, and people just do not like more and more nationalisation, and they’re now trying to control everything by other means. They’re progressively reducing the choice available to ordinary people.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by ajl View Post
                  What are the chances for some real change? It looks like here in AB our leftist premier will be on the unemployment line next year. I live in a swing riding so will do my part for that. Ontario may finally dump the most corrupt government in the world here soon. Unfortunately, I think it will be too little too late, and Canuckistan sinks regardless. At least a few premiers can get to together and make clown prince Hair do's life more miserable for a while and that will be worth it.
                  Do you realy want to go back to the incopeten bunch of assholes we had Jason Kenny is the one to lead them I dont think there is a moreover zelous member in the ROC. I dont realy like Rachel but I would vote for the devel himself before the UCP.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Retired View Post
                    Do you realy want to go back to the incopeten bunch of assholes we had Jason Kenny is the one to lead them I dont think there is a moreover zelous member in the ROC. I dont realy like Rachel but I would vote for the devel himself before the UCP.
                    I'm not convinced Rachel / NDP are finished yet. Same situation as Trudeau, lots and lots of voters collecting government paychecks and lots of urban voters that are now inspired to vote after seeing big change last time around. I'm not a Kenney fan, I don't think he has the right personality to lead and will turn off voters but he will get mine. If you don't vote or throw a vote in protest to another party you will ensure another NDP government.

                    If you are retired like your name says, maybe NDP policy isn't that bad for you. But do think about the generations following behind. No choice here but to pick the best of the worst!

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                      #11
                      It is a vote against Notely rather than an endorsement of Kenny. Lots not to like about him as well. Kenny is a globalist and I think we need to reduce immigration to merit class only. Good thing you are retired now. I expect that mine will be in near destitution as Canuckistan is finished regardless of election results. Work hard and save will get a bigger hair cut when the bank bailouts come.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by ajl View Post
                        It is a vote against Notely rather than an endorsement of Kenny. Lots not to like about him as well. Kenny is a globalist and I think we need to reduce immigration to merit class only. Good thing you are retired now. I expect that mine will be in near destitution as Canuckistan is finished regardless of election results. Work hard and save will get a bigger hair cut when the bank bailouts come.
                        Ajl, just bury your cash in tobacco cans in the back yard, it will be harder for them to take it! Just remember to draw yourself a map so when you're senile you can still find it!

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                          #13
                          40 yrs of the pc gov and i have more to show or my work than the province has,enufsaid.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Retired View Post
                            40 yrs of the pc gov and i have more to show or my work than the province has,enufsaid.
                            Lol....that's kinda funny. Kinda.....

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by ajl View Post
                              It is a vote against Notely rather than an endorsement of Kenny. Lots not to like about him as well. Kenny is a globalist and I think we need to reduce immigration to merit class only. Good thing you are retired now. I expect that mine will be in near destitution as Canuckistan is finished regardless of election results. Work hard and save will get a bigger hair cut when the bank bailouts come.
                              The NDP's projected deficit for Alberta in the current fiscal year is $9.1 billion. This does not include the capital spending budget deficit which is another $5 billion. I did some quick research and there were 2,481,600 employed Albertans in 2017. For Alberta's budget to balance each employed Albertan would have to pay an additional $5650 in tax per year. The unfortunate reality is it doesn't matter which party platform in Alberta you look at nobody is realistically addressing this problem. As for the debate between Notley and Kenney, I have to be honest absolutely disagree with the outlook of the NDP, certainly Kenney isn't perfect either but if the NDP get re-elected I see a very grim future on the farm. An ever increasing carbon tax favoured by the NDP would over time greatly increase the cost to farm.

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