Ottawa unveils carbon price plan! for us in Saskatchewan with none! FU Trudeau

[SASKFARMER3]

The federal government has released details of its plan to regulate and enforce the price of emitting greenhouse gases.
The proposed legislation was brought forward on Monday by Environment and Climate Change Minister Catherine McKenna and Finance Minister Bill Morneau.
“Today, we're following through on our commitment to put a price on carbon pollution across Canada, with federal legislation and a practical approach to protect competitiveness for large industry," said McKenna in a statement released late Monday.
The proposed bill includes rates that would apply to various types of polluting gases, and provides details on the registration, reporting periods, rebates, payment, and penalties surrounding the incoming carbon price system.
he system would apply to provinces and territories that request it and to those that don't have a carbon tax system in place that meets federal standards.

Currently, carbon pricing is in place in four provinces: Alberta, British Columbia, Ontario and Quebec. According to the federal government, all provinces have committed to adopt some form of carbon pricing.
Saskatchewan and New Brunswick, however, have been at odds with the federal government’s strategy. This bill would allow Ottawa to potentially offer rebate cheques directly to Canadians in provinces that don’t have their own carbon pricing plan.
“This is not a cash grab,” said McKenna in an interview on CTV’s Power Play. “All the revenues go back to the provinces. It’s up to them to decide how they’re going to support consumers. Many of them are giving money back in forms of rebates."
Comments on the draft legislative proposals are being accepted until Feb. 12, 2018.
The bill is expected to be introduced in the House of Commons once Parliament resumes at the end of the month.

The Next thing he will impose on his subjects will be Gender Neutral and equality on all farms and boards so you'll have to fire your sons and hire two town kids that are Trans would be good or new Canadians and train them. Original Canadians he is not thinking about till the days before the next election then he will promise the world and do nothing. Again.

Is it just me or do we have a PM who is acting more like a Dictator than a Statesman. Oh the first phase of Becoming Venezuela.

[SASKFARMER3]

Trudeau govt has draft bill to impose fed carbon tax on provs that don’t have one. Our made-in-SK plan takes serious action on climate change without carbon tax.

Your @SaskParty govt will fight this significant overreach by fed gov including challenging it in court if necessary

[Oliver88]

Only solution to deal with this corrupt PM, corrupt finance minister and climate alarmist minister is to vote out the Liberals in the next election.....and make Trudeau a drama teacher again.

Whoever thought your own federal government would become one of your biggest enemies?

[SASKFARMER3]

I agree the biggest problem with getting a head in canada today and growing your business is Ottawa. They have no idea and the funny part is the idiot in charges grandfather was just like the rest of us a guy with a idea and it turned into something big.

Honestly is i was 35 years younger i would sell out today in Canada and move to Argentina. Tomorrow.

I am really worried is they win again were finished with farming in Canada.

[bucket]

Not one word about the value that our farmland and forests contribute to sequestering carbon that contributes to the reduction of emissions.

They can put an artificial price on a tonne of carbon and then not pay for our contribution....we shouldn't be paying... we should be opening our mailboxes for a cheque...and a fairly large one as they artificially increase the price of carbon...


Better than bitcoin .....

[SASKFARMER3]

Climate barbie is she really knew what she was talking about would look at all that and give us cash big time for what we do. Oh wait thats the problem this is about a cash grab for bullshit liberal shit.

It has nothing to do with environment or what is good for the environment its all about the cash.

Always follow the money.

The liberal way.

[the big wheel]

And again one group of idiots dealing with another.
You're right sask and bucket but tell me why we didn't then design our program here doing exactly that paying farmers for our contribution? The reason is because we're not a priority for either of these incompetent outfits.

[bucket]

Because farm groups that lobby governments are incompetent.....

It seems no one has the ability to ask or beg for what is legitimately ours....


The new premier in sask might fight against Trudeau but he or she is certainly not going to pay farmers for their contributions in regards to carbon sequestering....

We as farmers are expected to donate that to the coffers....

As an individual they do not listen so I can't imagine a group of farmers getting any further ...

[Hamloc]

The most important point on Trudeau's C02 tax plan, is that by 2022 it will be $50 a tonne and that it will continue to increase beyond that point. The other thing to think about is that the Liberals will widen the focus of regulations as time goes on. As with all tax plans by government they will start small and keep raising the tax and widening the scope over time. If a tax on C02 isn't to your liking, keep in mind that either taxes or regulations on methane and nitrogen emissions are soon to follow. The industrial emitters tax in Alberta is an example. In addition to the $30 a tonne we now pay on C02, industrial emitters are subject to a separate tax based on a baseline created by government for their particular industry. As an example a concrete plant's emissions in Alberta are benchmarked against those across Canada and a tax or rebate is applied depending on emissions. This industrial emitters tax is also in The federal Liberal's plan. It is projected this new tax on industry will increase the taxes from $400 million today to $1.2 billion by 2020 just in Alberta.

[danny W1M]

SF3, "The Next thing he will impose on his subjects will be Gender Neutral and equality on all farms and boards so you'll have to fire your sons and hire two town kids that are Trans would be good or new Canadians and train them."

You might be facetious with your statement, but what I heard yesterday in the media, was that the Trudeau Liberals ARE CONSIDERING legislation for racial equality and distribution on the boards of directors of companies in Canada(not counting employees, but directors). So SF3, you might be hiring Joetoofeathers on your farm anyway!

bucket, "Not one word about the value that our farmland and forests contribute to sequestering carbon that contributes to the reduction of emissions."

We've been over this,,,,it's not about the environment,,,it's about the Tax Revenue !!!

Still not sure how/where carbon taxes will be forced onto Saskatchewan by the Federal government? Federal fuel tax? Special tax to get into a National Parks located in Saskatchewan? A special tax on TV and communication within Saskatchewan? Special tax for flying from an airport located in Saskatchewan? How are the Liberals planning to tax the people of Saskatchewan?

All Nova Scotia has done is change the name of their PST to Carbon Tax. The percentage hasn't changed, they've just changed the name, and all's cool with the Feds,,,,for now!

[danny W1M]

Hamloc, it's the same strategy that worked so well for cigarettes.

Oh, it's only two cents more for a pack,
Oh, it's only a nickel more for a pack,
Oh, it's only a dime more for a pack,
Oh, it's only two bits more for a pack, etc, etc, etc,

boil the frog slowly

[Klause]

Sell out, buy 50,000 acres close to vaca muarta. Run some cows, grow some grain, MWD on the rigs for fun.

Laught at Trudeau from somewhere perpetually warm.


It sounds better every day after I read the news of what Trudope did that day.

[fjlip]

"The Next thing he will impose on his subjects will be Gender Neutral and equality on all farms and boards so you'll have to fire your sons and hire two town kids that are Trans would be good or new Canadians and train them." Original Canadians he is not thinking about till the days before the next election then he will promise the world and do nothing. Again.

Is it just me or do we have a PM who is acting more like a Dictator than a Statesman. Oh the first phase of Becoming Venezuela.

Closer than we think...Change PST to carbon tax now THAT is perfect...come on Sask Party, do it!

[grassfarmer]

Not one word about the value that our farmland and forests contribute to sequestering carbon that contributes to the reduction of emissions.

They can put an artificial price on a tonne of carbon and then not pay for our contribution....we shouldn't be paying... we should be opening our mailboxes for a cheque...and a fairly large one as they artificially increase the price of carbon...
Better than bitcoin .....

Because farm groups that lobby governments are incompetent.....

It seems no one has the ability to ask or beg for what is legitimately ours....

The new premier in sask might fight against Trudeau but he or she is certainly not going to pay farmers for their contributions in regards to carbon sequestering....

We as farmers are expected to donate that to the coffers....

As an individual they do not listen so I can't imagine a group of farmers getting any further ...

Bucket, I asked before if you or anyone else could come up with some good data on how much carbon your modern farming methods are sequestering. The trail went quiet...
You may have a case for what you propose but you need the proof. Don't beat up on the incompetent farm groups - provide them with the info they need to make the case if you've got it. I suspect that like on the grazing side the research has not yet been done sufficiently to make the case (if there even is one). There are research projects going on now on the grazing side but they had to be kickstarted by ranchers/land managers. Is anybody doing the research on the farming side or pushing for it to be done?

[furrowtickler]

Bucket, I asked before if you or anyone else could come up with some good data on how much carbon your modern farming methods are sequestering. The trail went quiet...
You may have a case for what you propose but you need the proof. Don't beat up on the incompetent farm groups - provide them with the info they need to make the case if you've got it. I suspect that like on the grazing side the research has not yet been done sufficiently to make the case (if there even is one). There are research projects going on now on the grazing side but they had to be kickstarted by ranchers/land managers. Is anybody doing the research on the farming side or pushing for it to be done?

There has been a while ago when the environmental farm plans were being pushed . But after Harper / Wall were in , it all went away . There was values established,one would have to go back in time and look .