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Cheryl Gallant Was The Only MP To Vote Against Paris Agreement Motion

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    #16
    I don't worry about alarmists. When unmanageable temperature doesn't occur as preached, they will just substitute out climate change with another doomsday word in front of alarmist. You won't even hear an...oops!, from that group.

    The ones that need help are the band wagon followers.

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      #17
      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
      This post is about the Conservatives who have voted to stay in the Paris accord. Climate change deniers have lost. Move on
      But then this argument isn't really scientific...........

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        #18
        "
        Or we could build out massive infrastructure called dams and have cheap green power in perpetuity... But that doesn't redistribute wealth or appease climate change wingnuts"

        Klause is right. BC is even considering stopping their dam project half finished.
        Hiding behind all the good intentions are the greedy and the selfish. End result its always been about the money.
        From the people who want more (people opposed to projects) to the govt who is putting more in general revenue (carbon tax).
        Cant wait for some eager beaver on here to show where all new revenue actually being spent.

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          #19
          Hydro is a good option. Canada has a lot of hydro capacity already. Every new hydro project should be evaluated on its' own merits. We should be looking at all options based on economics and environmental risks and benefits. That's why wind and solar are on the table where it makes sense.

          Many people think it is a black and white decision. Either you are in favor of renewables and opposed to fossil sources or opposed to renewables and in favor of fossil energy. For the time being we are all dependent on both if you consider that Canada is a major hydro producer and using a lot of coal in Alberta, Saskatchewan and Nova Scotia.

          We shouldn't be retrofitting or building any new coal electrical generation in Saskatchewan or Alberta. Gas is abundant and being wasted in the oil industry with a large number of flares. Convert the coal plants to gas as an interim measure to reduce carbon emissions. Its much cheaper than carbon capture and storage so says Sask Power.

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            #20
            Good for her. Too bad the others cave to the bullshit

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              #21
              Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
              Hydro is a good option. Canada has a lot of hydro capacity already. Every new hydro project should be evaluated on its' own merits. We should be looking at all options based on economics and environmental risks and benefits. That's why wind and solar are on the table where it makes sense.

              Many people think it is a black and white decision. Either you are in favor of renewables and opposed to fossil sources or opposed to renewables and in favor of fossil energy. For the time being we are all dependent on both if you consider that Canada is a major hydro producer and using a lot of coal in Alberta, Saskatchewan and Nova Scotia.

              We shouldn't be retrofitting or building any new coal electrical generation in Saskatchewan or Alberta. Gas is abundant and being wasted in the oil industry with a large number of flares. Convert the coal plants to gas as an interim measure to reduce carbon emissions. Its much cheaper than carbon capture and storage so says Sask Power.
              I don’t disagree with new types of power generation but mothballing working plants before other generation is online and proven to be cost effective and reliable is the rub. Going foreword it will be a healthy mixture of coal, hydro, lng, nuclear, solar, wind, and tidal power that will power us for many years. Coal will be mostly replaced but never totally. It’s dirty but I can’t see countries sitting on piles giving it up.

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                #22
                Not sure but something doesnt seem right. Quebec can sell their (subsidized?)hydro south and not call it income for transfer purposes. We arent allowed to generate our own electricity cheaply and safer than other countrys with coal?
                A 400 mile drive in western canada will have one hell of a lot less smokestacks on the horizon than that same drive in China. How many coal plants in the west??? Less than there are mines for sure. Maybe we shouldnt export coal anymore either??? Let the Japs buy it elsewhere that'll show 'em.
                In 100 years coal may be worthless but it has real value today.
                The natives, enviros, and nimbys dont want hydro here so I'm confused. Where does that leave us?
                Why should the greatest invention get prohibitively expensive needlessly??
                Will Quebec send us energy credits (money) because they have access to cheaper power than us?
                Maybe we should go tell the Newfies they dont deserve that oil income either. That should go well.
                Speaking of Newfies. The greatest free transfer system has been the willing migration of jobless people to job full areas. Guess they can go work for the govt now that money grows on trees. Tell em theyre saving a Fijian from drowning in 2150. That'll make it better.

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