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    Stats Canada YES the report thats two months old.

    The reporting of this report is a joke and that hasn't changed since agriville has been going. They phone and girl takes info types it into the computer then the computer turns and turns and finally two months later you have the data. Ah does the grain companies get it about a day after they get it from us and then have time to plan for two months till it is finally issues i dont know its just so funny it takes forever to come out in 2017.

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    Canadian farmers reported increased production of canola, soybean, oats and corn for grain in 2017, while wheat and barley production was lower than in 2016.

    Despite producers' concerns of drought on the Prairies and heavier than average precipitation in parts of Eastern Canada this summer, farmers reported that yields have improved from their preliminary expectations reported in the July 2017 Farm Survey.

    WHEAT
    Total wheat production declined 5.5% to 30.0 million tonnes in 2017. Harvested area edged up from 2016 to 22.2 million acres, while average total wheat yield declined 3.6 bushels per acre to 49.6 bushels per acre.

    In Alberta, wheat production edged up 0.8% to 10.0 million tonnes in 2017. This was the result of a 10.7% rise in harvested area to 7.0 million acres, while the average yield fell by 5.4 bushels per acre to 52.6 bushels per acre.

    In contrast, farmers in Saskatchewan reported an 11.3% decline in production to 12.9 million tonnes. The drop was the result of a 10.8% decrease in average yield to 42.2 bushels per acre. Harvested area edged down 0.8% to 11.2 million acres in 2017.

    Manitoba farmers reported that wheat production rose 3.6% to 4.4 million tonnes in 2017. Although harvested area declined 8.2% to 2.7 million acres, a 12.6% rise in average yield to 59.8 bushels per acre drove the production increase.

    Yes total wheat was a better crop than i thought early on but as heads filled it looked promising in areas with moisture.

    CANOLA
    Canadian farmers reported producing 21.3 million tonnes of canola in 2017, up 8.7% from 19.6 million tonnes in 2016. This was the result of a record high harvested area of 22.9 million acres, up 14.1% from 2016. However, farmers reported a 4.9% decrease in average yield to 41.0 bushels per acre, down from the record high set in 2016.

    Saskatchewan farmers reported a 4.7% increase in canola production from 2016 to a record high 11.2 million tonnes in 2017, the result of a record harvested area of 12.7 million acres (+14.2%). However, average yield fell 8.3% to 38.9 bushels per acre.

    In Alberta, farmers reported a 10.9% increase in canola production from 2016 to 6.8 million tonnes. This was the result of a 17.8% rise in harvested acreage, as average yield fell 5.8% to 43.7 bushels per acre in 2017.

    Manitoba farmers reported that canola production rose 20.7% to a record high 3.1 million tonnes. This was the result of a record average yield of 44.0 bushels per acre, up 12.8% from 2016, combined with a 6.9% increase in harvested area.

    The area we seeded to canola was as high as almost 23 mill acres so even with lower production my initial summer guess hit the wrong number and final was 21 mill ton.

    This was done not due to genetics but years of wet ground and thats what produced a crop in dry conditions. If 2018 is dry expect that number even with 25 mil acres to be below 20.

    SOY
    Nationally, soybean production reached a record high once again in 2017, up 17.8% from 2016 to 7.7 million tonnes. Average yield fell 11.5% to 39.1 bushels per acre, while harvested area reached a record high 7.3 million acres.

    In Manitoba, farmers reported record soybean production for the sixth consecutive year, up 26.9% from 2016 to 2.2 million tonnes in 2017. This was entirely the result of a 45.1% increase in harvested area to a record 2.3 million acres, while the average yield fell 12.6% from 2016 to 36.1 bushels per acre.

    Ontario soybean growers reported a 12.5% production increase to a record high 3.8 million tonnes in 2017. Harvested area rose 13.3% to match the 2014 record high of 3.1 million acres, while average yield decreased 0.7% to 45.6 bushels per acre.

    In Saskatchewan, where soybean harvested area more than tripled to 845,000 acres in 2017, farmers reported soybean production of 479 000 tonnes, up 276 500 tonnes from 2016. Meanwhile, Quebec producers reported a 1.3% production decrease to 1.1 million tonnes.

    Because of the increase in seeded area soy went up 11.5 %

    BARLEY AND OATS
    Canadian farmers reported a 10.2% decrease in barley production to 7.9 million tonnes in 2017. This decline was the result of a 4.9% decrease in harvested area to 5.2 million acres, combined with a 5.4% drop in average yield to 69.4 bushels per acre.

    Meanwhile, Canadian farmers reported oats production rose 16.6% from 2016 to 3.7 million tonnes. The increase was attributable to a record high yield of 93.1 bushels per acre, combined with a 15.7% increase in harvested area to 2.6 million acres.

    I said barley yields were down and oats were good on the later seeded.


    So basically got the wheat up oats up and soy but missed the canola due to way higher seeded area.

    #2
    Look at that tiny droughted out swath, my condolences. Doesn't match at all what stats can is saying, does it?

    No way stats can is right. After all when you look at seed companies yield data on plots ranging from only 50 to 80 bu, no way they are right.

    BS.

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      #3
      Maybe statscan finds the acres locally and applies the plot data to those acres.....then come up with the results they have. ....

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        #4
        larry was right??

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          #5
          This stats can report was just as irrelevant as all the others. Fire them all. Still too high on canola acres as there was a lot of unseeded in AB, most of which would have gone to canola. If this report was relevant, there would not be over $11 cash bid. Crop yields were disappointing in this area due to too wet early on, so there yields are likely slightly high, but it is a WAG anyways.

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            #6
            Canola and spring wheat futures fell after Canada revealed that its crops had been less affected than had been thought by dryness, with the canola crop upgraded to a record high – and to within an ace of being the world’s biggest.
            StatsCan flagged that growing season dryness in the Prairies, the key growing region, had not wrought the harm to crops that had been expected.

            “Despite producers’ concerns of drought on the Prairies, and heavier-than-average precipitation in parts of eastern Canada this summer, farmers reported that yields have improved from their preliminary expectations reported in the July 2017 farm survey,” officials said.

            While wheat yields did fall 10.8% in the top growing state of Saskatchewan, and by some 7% in Alberta, they rose 12.6% in Manitoba.

            Overall Canadian wheat output, which is mainly of spring wheat, was pegged at 29.98m tonnes, a drop of 5.5% on last year’s bumper harvest, but ahead of the 28.0m-tonne figure that investors had expected.

            StatsCan’s July survey pegged the harvest at 25.54m tonnes, with its model-based analysis in September putting the crop at 27.13m tonnes.

            For canola, the harvest was pegged at 21.31m tonnes, a rise of 1.71m tonnes year on year, and well ahead of investor expectations of a 20.2m-tonne crop.

            The upgrade also took the harvest – which StatsCan modelling had estimated at 19.71m tonnes – to within an ace of the European Union ****seed crop, the world’s biggest, which industry group Coceral earlier on Wednesday put at 21.9m tonnes.

            The European Commission and analysis group Strategie Grains both estimate the EU ****seed crop at 21.7m tonnes.

            Cinderella will be the pumpkin...if your crop was reduced, it never made a difference, was cancelled out.
            Same in USA, worst drought ever in 2012, only 8% smaller crop? Too much grain on earth boys!

            This will really increase prices...
            [URL="https://www.grainews.ca/2017/12/05/drumroll-for-the-2017-canola-100-challenge-results/?utm_source=GFM+Publications&utm_campaign=4b57b6fa c0-Grainews+daily+enews+Dec+06%2C+2017&utm_medium=ema il&utm_term=0_2da8244677-4b57b6fac0-88067685"]https://www.grainews.ca/2017/12/05/drumroll-for-the-2017-canola-100-challenge-results/?utm_source=GFM+Publications&utm_campaign=4b57b6fa c0-Grainews+daily+enews+Dec+06%2C+2017&utm_medium=ema il&utm_term=0_2da8244677-4b57b6fac0-88067685[/URL]
            Last edited by fjlip; Dec 6, 2017, 11:01.

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              #7
              When they called I told them I was gone fishing for a month. Wish now I would have told My yields might have helped lower the production. 😂😂
              Happy to see most guys had a good crop.

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                #8
                Does the canola number have any credibility?

                Why are canola prices as good as they are?

                Our crop and many many around us wasn't that good....and some worse! But Western Canada is a big area.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by fjlip View Post
                  Canola and spring wheat futures fell after Canada revealed that its crops had been less affected than had been thought by dryness, with the canola crop upgraded to a record high – and to within an ace of being the world’s biggest.
                  StatsCan flagged that growing season dryness in the Prairies, the key growing region, had not wrought the harm to crops that had been expected.

                  “Despite producers’ concerns of drought on the Prairies, and heavier-than-average precipitation in parts of eastern Canada this summer, farmers reported that yields have improved from their preliminary expectations reported in the July 2017 farm survey,” officials said.

                  While wheat yields did fall 10.8% in the top growing state of Saskatchewan, and by some 7% in Alberta, they rose 12.6% in Manitoba.

                  Overall Canadian wheat output, which is mainly of spring wheat, was pegged at 29.98m tonnes, a drop of 5.5% on last year’s bumper harvest, but ahead of the 28.0m-tonne figure that investors had expected.

                  StatsCan’s July survey pegged the harvest at 25.54m tonnes, with its model-based analysis in September putting the crop at 27.13m tonnes.

                  For canola, the harvest was pegged at 21.31m tonnes, a rise of 1.71m tonnes year on year, and well ahead of investor expectations of a 20.2m-tonne crop.

                  The upgrade also took the harvest – which StatsCan modelling had estimated at 19.71m tonnes – to within an ace of the European Union ****seed crop, the world’s biggest, which industry group Coceral earlier on Wednesday put at 21.9m tonnes.

                  The European Commission and analysis group Strategie Grains both estimate the EU ****seed crop at 21.7m tonnes.

                  Cinderella will be the pumpkin...if your crop was reduced, it never made a difference, was cancelled out.
                  Same in USA, worst drought ever in 2012, only 8% smaller crop? Too much grain on earth boys!

                  This will really increase prices...
                  [URL="https://www.grainews.ca/2017/12/05/drumroll-for-the-2017-canola-100-challenge-results/?utm_source=GFM+Publications&utm_campaign=4b57b6fa c0-Grainews+daily+enews+Dec+06%2C+2017&utm_medium=ema il&utm_term=0_2da8244677-4b57b6fac0-88067685"]https://www.grainews.ca/2017/12/05/drumroll-for-the-2017-canola-100-challenge-results/?utm_source=GFM+Publications&utm_campaign=4b57b6fa c0-Grainews+daily+enews+Dec+06%2C+2017&utm_medium=ema il&utm_term=0_2da8244677-4b57b6fac0-88067685[/URL]
                  wonder if they know how damaging this type of shit(100 bpa) is to market prices? or they just done care??

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                    #10
                    The canola is still to high as why are a lot empty bins with canola this early in the year.

                    Unless you have the new load cells in your combine the southern sask bushel didn’t materialize.

                    Some were good some great and some oh well next year.

                    Down down down just what stats canada likes

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                      #11
                      Cheap food for the world..
                      Just grow more and don't think about making money.

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                        #12
                        If things are so tight not sure why so many were getting all upset about tax changes on profits over $200,000. Something doesn't add up?

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                          #13
                          I just want to know who is giving out their numbers? If you had a killer crop do you think the people on the other line really know anything. I know some like to make themselves sound like they are king tuts. I guess some get scared when they say it’s law. Now when prices start to collapse wonder how many of these guys are complaining?

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by bigzee View Post
                            I just want to know who is giving out their numbers? If you had a killer crop do you think the people on the other line really know anything. I know some like to make themselves sound like they are king tuts. I guess some get scared when they say it’s law. Now when prices start to collapse wonder how many of these guys are complaining?
                            they get SFA from me , and haven't been imprisoned yet?

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
                              If things are so tight not sure why so many were getting all upset about tax changes on profits over $200,000. Something doesn't add up?
                              think it was more the issue that a co. could take over your farm a lot cheaper tax wise than your own son that has helped you for 20 years

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