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    #31
    Chuck and horse wtf don’t you get.

    The Trudeau gov is a bunch of crooks tax dodgers and manipulators.

    Yet you cheer and make it seem we’re the problem and they can do no wrong.

    The group that needs investigation is the off shore accounts and that needs to be cleaned up.

    Not hard working mom and pop operations or farmers.

    But liberals can do no wrong.

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      #32
      Quebec has for years been Canadas Greece. Well known for corruption.

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        #33
        Originally posted by blackpowder View Post
        Quebec has for years been Canadas Greece. Well known for corruption.
        I have a friend who worked for a federal regulator, had to go to Quebec after a career in the west. Was shocked to discover that the entire system is corrupt in Quebec. Organized crime had much greater control than the federal regulator.

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          #34
          Sask3 I see why you do so much holidaying, the way you jump to conclusions you don't need plane fair. I think we all agree the tax system is corrupt and made to be manipulated, Lets see if you can give a plain answer, why incorporate if there is no advantage to you, and that's preferably without using the word liberal, and no I have never voted liberal but I have been embarased to have voted con at times. Every thing is not as simple as politics sometimes the good of the Hoy-poiloy.should take preference to individuals likes and dislikes.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Horse View Post
            Sask3 I see why you do so much holidaying, the way you jump to conclusions you don't need plane fair. I think we all agree the tax system is corrupt and made to be manipulated, Lets see if you can give a plain answer, why incorporate if there is no advantage to you, and that's preferably without using the word liberal, and no I have never voted liberal but I have been embarased to have voted con at times. Every thing is not as simple as politics sometimes the good of the Hoy-poiloy.should take preference to individuals likes and dislikes.
            The advantage to incorporating is that as my business grows I can defer the income tax till much later on. Hopefully when I have grown my business to a level where paying the taxes doesn’t cripple it. I will still pay my fair share and anyone who say otherwise doesn’t understand how corporate taxes work. Comparing my corporate taxes to what’s happening with offshore accounts is so stupid it’s laughable.
            Last edited by Casered; Nov 6, 2017, 12:21.

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              #36
              Absolutely agree casered.

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                #37
                Case sums it up perfectly horse. We’re not the crooks. JT is the guy running the country now and it’s time to quit comparing this with that and th Cons. He won fair and square and he is the man in charge. Being a cheerleader seems to be what you come across.

                I been to the Cayman and actually went to the RBC and CIBC their. Can’t miss them. It’s a small island.

                Ah but the main man with JT fundraising probably knows them by first name.

                Farmers and mom and pop operations work hard and try to make a living not trust fund kids. That’s the difference.

                Yes I travel and it’s interesting to talk to others in different areas and find out about farming all over.

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                  #38
                  Not a tax expert, but from every news broadcast no matter how much they sensationalize the story the last statement they make is it is NOT illegal.

                  "Examples of tax avoidance are: tax deductions, changing one’s business structure through incorporation, or establishing an offshore company in a tax haven" Quote from the Sun


                  So the the question to all those that hate paying taxes, (some on here may have tax havens set up) would you not do the same if you had the funds?

                  Many of you like pointing fingers at the so call socialist that you say are jealous of the wealthy and the business people trying to get ahead, but here you are all crying the blues about tax havens which again, are legal!

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post
                    Not a tax expert, but from every news broadcast no matter how much they sensationalize the story the last statement they make is it is NOT illegal.

                    "Examples of tax avoidance are: tax deductions, changing one’s business structure through incorporation, or establishing an offshore company in a tax haven" Quote from the Sun


                    So the the question to all those that hate paying taxes, (some on here may have tax havens set up) would you not do the same if you had the funds?

                    Many of you like pointing fingers at the so call socialist that you say are jealous of the wealthy and the business people trying to get ahead, but here you are all crying the blues about tax havens which again, are legal!
                    meanwhile they're trying to make small things that help us (create wealth for the country, I might add) illegal . what a comparison

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post
                      Not a tax expert, but from every news broadcast no matter how much they sensationalize the story the last statement they make is it is NOT illegal.

                      "Examples of tax avoidance are: tax deductions, changing one’s business structure through incorporation, or establishing an offshore company in a tax haven" Quote from the Sun


                      So the the question to all those that hate paying taxes, (some on here may have tax havens set up) would you not do the same if you had the funds?

                      Many of you like pointing fingers at the so call socialist that you say are jealous of the wealthy and the business people trying to get ahead, but here you are all crying the blues about tax havens which again, are legal!
                      Yes I set up a corporation to lessen tax burden and allow myself to easier plan cashflow, make land/equipment payments, roll some inventory into shareholder loans as part of succession planning. All legal. I call it being smart and using the tools given me. As is offshore tax havens for much wealthier people than I. I actually don't have a problem with that either. They are doing what's legal. What's BS in my book is liberals going after middle class with tax changes in the name of fairness but don't even have any inkling to maybe make these tax havens companies pay their share. And we know why, they liberal elite. Do as I say not as I do should be their slogan. That's complete hypocrites. Liberals are just so corrupt. The so called taxes they want from the middle class will go the liberal elite and their friends and than will be funnelled back into these offshore accounts. Quite the scam.

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                        #41
                        Here is a good explanation of Trudeau and the Paradise papers: https://www.irishtimes.com/business/paradise-papers-justin-trudeau-s-chief-fundraiser-linked-to-offshore-tax-manoeuvres-1.3280733

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                          #42
                          Force all that money back to Canada and have them invest that money here in green energy. That should be a non issue as I would think the majority who are Canadians listed in the paradise papers also avidly support climate change .
                          It's a win win ..... unless they don't really truly believe in what they preach when it comes to their money . It would be interesting to bring up in House of Commons and see what kind of response from JT and gang lol

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                            Force all that money back to Canada and have them invest that money here in green energy. That should be a non issue as I would think the majority who are Canadians listed in the paradise papers also avidly support climate change .
                            It's a win win ..... unless they don't really truly believe in what they preach when it comes to their money . It would be interesting to bring up in House of Commons and see what kind of response from JT and gang lol
                            Good points.

                            Yes force them to put their $ where there mouth is solar/wind power or the very well ran Quebec company called Bombardier. 😂

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                              #44
                              One gets tired of the hypocrisy by some of these public figure heads telling us what to do and how we should pay tax's for climate change and invest in Canada.
                              Then you see all this money in off show tax shelters by the same politicians , of all stripes, and people like chuck wonder why we oppose canon tax and other tax changes . It's not that we don't understand climate change , it's the hypocrisy of who pays and who gets to hide their money away . That's the issue .
                              "Do as I tell you , not as I do"
                              If JT and his followers are so adamant on climate change and tax reforms .... that's where I agree 100% Oliver .... put your money where your mouth is.

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                                #45
                                I find it odd that those held in high regard in Canada don't invest in their own country....


                                Why not pay taxes and have better infrastructure?

                                Why not have a better railway system to compete with Cn and Cp that do sfa to improve logistics and are happy to move 1960 crop production and pay shareholders that move money to tax havens....


                                We are on our way to third world status because it doesn't matter if you are a dictator or a wealthy person.....if you don't invest in people and infrastructure of your own country ...it's doomed to fail.

                                Watch the FSU, argentina and other countries kick our ass. .....mostly due to the fact Canada hasn't kept pace with infrastructure.


                                Sure we are furthest from port but that doesn't mean we couldn't have a competitive logistics system in this country....

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