posted Jun 12, 2012 7:44
The one profs comments in town to a
group of us was simple. Were all lazy we
should be seeding every square inch of
our farm. The Valley should be terraced
and seeded. Drain every single slough.
Have no lawns, Seed right up to bins.
We all listened, then he left.
Well see here in canada we have some
rules. Not like where this guy came
from.
1. drainage is a option if the
neighbours work together. AH starting to
drain into neighbors will get your ass
sued in canada.
2. Having lawns is pride thing it looks
nice, not like death.
3. Spraying out yard to seed. DAh its
canada now how do you get to your shed
bins etc. in spring, frost, or rain
event etc.
4.Seeding valley hills great but seems
some city people would be very pst about
view etc.
5.If cant expand will purchase some 50
miles away and work both farms, AH so
when you move their and it rains will
you travel 50 back only to have it rain
their.
6. Bring family over to work and run
farm. Yea we have labor laws. Cant do
like back home.
He might have more education than me,
but he is missing street smarts.
So it seems a Communist is going to have
some issues when the state is not their
to help him.
posted Jun 12, 2012 7:53
I guess the whole situation is like the
guy who won lotto 6/49 and was going to
show every one how to do things.
Yea he works at a gas station now!
posted Jun 12, 2012 8:42
In Havana Cuba they grow 50% of the food needed for the population right within the city. No lawns, former parks are all in vegetables (by the way all organic and beautiful produce).
If they came here and saw nothing but lawns and grass covered boulevards in our cities, I am sure they would think we must be crazy?
posted Jun 12, 2012 15:06
Some people mistrust/fear that which they dont understand.
Some mistrust anything/one bigger.
Someone pee in your pool today???
posted Jun 12, 2012 17:48
The point is that the pond is only so big; and there is always a bigger fish out there. If the forty to fifty plus quarter guys can't look after themselves; I say lets concentrate our thoughts on the real problems of the majority who don't even fathom that there are also lots of sharks picking them off.
Some of the sharks are the saskfarmers.
posted Jun 12, 2012 19:23
I'm not a shark boys, quit thinking this isn't a
problem. It is and it will get you. We have rules in
Canada the last time I checked.
posted Jun 12, 2012 21:14
Aw heck SK3 I agree with you.
Just not sure what you can do to slow it down. Eventually won't matter. Start by thanking any previous policy that kept SK land priced too cheap.
When I talk to all my peers, I can think of only 1 that somewhat understands the Chinese.
Their are some things that can only be understood by seeing for oneself.
Welcome to the 21st century.
Yes, we might be selling ourselves out. Although certainly not new events to mankind. I'd like to slow it down too.
posted Jun 12, 2012 21:57
If the pond is full of only BIG fish after all us little fish are gone, guess what, they will EAT each other.
The biggest fish, "China", just swam into the pond.
We all know they are hungry for big fish.
posted Jun 12, 2012 23:22
We were headed for mega farms anyway. Not many seemed concerned when it recently spiralled out of control.
I predict a day when a garden, some animals and milk, a potato patch, enough grain and staples to stave off hunger and some survival instincts and abilities will come in handy.
When you walk into the Walmart store and see the shelves partially unstocked, not a banana in the place etc; it gives one reason to suspect that given the right conditions; and some bad luck; it could just look like some of the Russian food store pictures of the recent past.
And whether it is the inability to hire workers to stock the shelves, or an actual shortage, it is only a matter of time until our "monopolies" let us down and this does happen. Everything seeems to be put in one basket; with just in time delivery and no backup evident.
How many are prepared; how many could function without the cell phone, facebook and texting; how many could even cook a meal?
posted Jun 12, 2012 23:50
It would be right up my alley, oneoff.
Right up my alley. But your right, even
the farm folks these days are too busy,
too urbanized to grow a garden, raise a
beef, have some hens, utilize wild game,
etc. The ten minutes to feed the hens
and collect the eggs is time wasted for
fishing. And who will feed them when
they go to the latest warm destination
for a few weeks each winter?
Some still do these things, but most
think it is a waste of time. More acres
is where it is at for them. Well, more
acres and bigger, newer iron. And
perfect gravelled yards for all their
fancy depreciable liabilities. They grab
all the land they can, and wonder why
farming has gone how it has...
I do sometimes wonder what they will eat
when all hell truly breaks loose. They
don't even have game to hunt, for they
drain it all, push every last twig over
to make way for 80 foot drills, which
are the most important things in their
minds that they own. Then they come to
me begging to hunt on my land. I don't
think so... lol
I love my life. I have had a heck of a
struggle financially the last several
years, unlike most on here, but I really
feel I have a contentedness regardless,
that many seem to find so elusive...
Farming is a train wreck of a vicious
circle. The latest and greatest toys are
needed to justify more acres, more acres
are needed to then justify the next
batch of latest and greatest toys. And
then picking up another couple thousand
acres is a given, as they now have the
machinery to operate these acres. And
then.... Well, I think you get the
picture.
If we farmers would collectively just
relax, smell the roses, and not be so
dam competetive with our neighbors, we
may actually find that elusive
contentment. I see so little contentment
now a days....
posted Jun 13, 2012 10:10
I see your point of view saskfarmer3. I don't sympathize.
You have only made it easier for the next stage. You were a relatively small player in this big game. Your part was accumulating a few quarters here and there. You now witness the next step of being gobbled yourself.
The only efficiency gained was eliminating the need for so much on farm labor. My guess is that the weight of iron increased by the "square"; and energy savings from fuel were offset by energy and transportation of refined chemicals and various gadgets now relied upon and seen as crucial parts of the farm economy.
This was also done at the expense of the fabric of rural farm life. I could give some examples; but just look at the local loss of your farm neighbours.
The replacements are and will be more correctly called acreages.
posted Jun 13, 2012 12:26
Our area has lots of section or two quarter
farmers so no it's not me. Problem it's china
taking over stupid Canadians who are to blind to
see.
posted Jun 13, 2012 13:14
Agree that contentment is the secret to life.
Agree that we need to own up to our sovereignty. Stop being quite so 'nice'.
Voicing these opinions outside angriville earns the label of redneck, rural, western, podunk, and 'uncanadian'. Love that last one. Yes i've been called all these.
For different reasons I agree with Nicholsons' famous lines in A Few Good Men.
The rest of you are just navel gazing.
http://dotsub.com/media/b5ee5ada-5b37-4b0b-9916-e0896337ec4b/e/m
posted Jun 13, 2012 15:57
The one profs comments in town to a
group of us was simple. Were all lazy we
should be seeding every square inch of
our farm. The Valley should be terraced
and seeded. Drain every single slough.
Have no lawns, Seed right up to bins.
We all listened, then he left.
Is this for real? He certainly believes he is the King of the Castle. Tarrace the Valley? Maybe he should be paying you half million or one million per quarter.
posted Jun 13, 2012 16:02
Did anyone get to speak back? I would have called him a mommies baby that still gets everything he cries for.
Sask you and your family can farm and be profitable that land for ever as long as your family wishes to.
posted Jun 13, 2012 16:21
I would sell out to him myself. Just squeeze a little more money, could relocate. From the sounds of it his plans don't include working with the neighbours. I think in China they place guards on all the buildings and to watch the machinery. This nieghbourhood is going to all go for shit, that is if you had one. How to give him a dose of reality?
posted Jun 13, 2012 18:04
Tuff call, he may have less money a few years from now. Or he may be playing with your head about how much he is willing to pay. I would think if he sorta bid up the neighbour's land to 300 without a competing bidder, did he even have a competing bidder? He could sweeten the deal to get the last bits. Keep the mineral rights if any.
posted Jun 13, 2012 20:38
Suppose would not hurt to give him a price. A price it is what it is. Other than that keep farming it. Things may be explosive yet. Remember the tax implications of selling, talk to good accountant first. If the gov't walks away with half kinda reduces the insentive to sell. Don't know your situation, your going to need capital gain exemtion room. Some farmers took care of the excemption early.
posted Jun 13, 2012 20:38
Reserve to his Right so 8 quarters have us
on either side plus seedgrower the other
side. Their not selling either.
Its called boxed in.
posted Jun 16, 2012 0:49
I have a hunch that SF1 and SF2 will outvote SF3
and bow to Chinese buyers for double todays
price in that area. Who can resist all that cash?
Everybody will be set for life. Permanent
vacations.
posted Jun 16, 2012 0:52
I have a hunch that SF1 and SF2 will outvote SF3
and bow to Chinese buyers for double todays
price in that area. Who can resist all that cash?
Everybody will be set for life. Permanent
vacations.
posted Jun 16, 2012 13:49
If he overpays for the 10 sections does
that make the previous 50 sections worth
the higher value for FCC? Buy out the
competition and make your net worth look
better at the same time.
posted Jun 12, 2012 7:44
posted Jun 12, 2012 15:06
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posted Jun 13, 2012 13:14